I raced a pack of 143 horses. I won, probably cause my car has 171HP.

 

sorry guys for the thread i don't want to start betweem us with this thread, we are all cobalt owner and i have big respect for all of you we should

 

Haha... no wars starting. It's dumb to argue over this stuff. There have been countless threads arguing over this stuff before.

Problem is... everyone lets their pride get in the way of their brain.

 

Yuh, and everybody picks on 2.2's

 

or u could just buy a 2.4 block and put the 2.2 head on it

I'd like to run some 2.4's, I know I can beat the autos but it'd be nice to have a go at the 5 speeds.

 

What are your track times?

 

Big race guys don't use the 2.2. They use a 2.0 displacment ECOTEC. Before the SC cars came out that ment de-stroking the 2.2 with a smaller crank. So where it is true the enigines may have started out as 2.2's they were made into 2.0's and then had huge nasty turbos hung on them and ran nitro methane to hit stupid high HP numbers.

 

unknown at the moment...will probably never get N/A times since I've got the bottle now

but with I/H/E I think it'd be a good run with a 2.4

oh and Jackalope, the 2.0 is just a destroked 2.2, so technically you can't really argue whether they start with the 2.2 or 2.0 because in a sense the 2.0 IS a 2.2...the 2.2 is the base build for the 2.0 and 2.4...its the best engine to start out with for drag racing not because of power but because its the most plain jane of the 3 and you can pretty much go in any direction you want with it.

atleast thats how I see it anyway...if I had to go back and buy my car over again I would have gotten the 2.4 just because I know for sure with a 75 shot I'd be in the 13's.

 

I remember someone saying the 2.2's have better high end power....The guy that has the gto and 2.4 i cant remember his name....

 

Still! not much love going on in here

 

I really can't see how a 2.2 has more high end power then the 2.4. VVt, higher redline, more hp, more displacement. I've traped 74 in the 1/8th w/ I/E/T. Show me a 2.2 that has done the same with out fi or n2o.

 

I think maybe you misunderstood me. I said basicly the same thing you just did. LOL!

 

oh, sweet

 

i disagree with the second statment having beat a 2.2 on the interstate just yesterday.

 

the 2.4 is definatly faster. my buddy has a 2.2(catback exhaust, intake) and i the 2.4(stock) and the other day we were messin around on the highway and i had to let him keep up...if i had shifted into 5th he wouldn't have been able to keep up

 

was he driving in reverse?

 

No... I just finished an engine swap with that of an F-15 TombCat. Actually to be more realistic, I spent about $1,000 on NOS stickers and a big ass wing. (It's a joke lol).

 

I guess I'm gonna be the one to really say it but...

WHO CARES?

I know some of you who are giving the right response are basically saying that they are the same engines with small differences, which is somewhat correct. You guys have to understand they are apart of the same family.

In reality, GM brought out these different motors for different reasons, because of this, there is no real "better". Hell, in the world of cars, there is no better. There is no better motor for everyone in the world. One motor might be better in the sense cause it comes stock with more power. One motor might be better cause there are more parts available for it. One motor might be better cause it has good gas mileage.

There is no general better motor and to ask a question of "what is better?" will just cause every other person to give their specific opinion...it's causing a discussion, yes but it's still a rediculous discussion to have go on and on. We could have this thread go on for 85 pages of peoples opinions on what is better but where would it get us? Would one person change their mind as far as what they think is better from before they started discussing this topic, nope.

And to answer a question from before, no you can't use an 2.4 head on a 2.2 block.

 

I think pretty much everyone in here agrees with you.... it's dumb to argue over this. But look at the thread starter... 10 posts as of right now. He was new to the forum. We all know that new members don't search before posting.


And you'll always have people arguing over this. 2.2L owners will want to justify their cheaper purchase, 2.4L owners want to justify their right to the SS badge, 2.0L owners want to glorify their top of the line purchase. That's just how it goes with this caliber of car.

 

Yup, its called the MY DICK IS BIGGER THEN YOURS game. Look who cares what we have under the hood the rest of the sport compact world sees our cars as a new Cavalier. We should stop this in fighting BS and show everyone else out there that our cars aren't just Cavaliers.

 

It's called immaturity. If you bought your car to impress everyone else, or to have the fastest thing on the road, you're an idiot. Enough said.

 

True enough but you know as well as I do that its what it comes down to. Well for some it does anyway. Me I could care less if someone else likes my car cause its MY CAR! LOL!
The second someone wants to take over the payments THEN I'll worry about impressing them. Till then I'm making the payments so its what I want that counts.

Besides if you bought a Cobalt just to be fast.....I've got some bad news for you. LMAO!

 

do you have a manual?

 

I raced a 2.2L manual in my 2.4L auto, and I still won. It wasn't an embarrassment, but it was certainly a win by a carlength. This was before all the custom tuning and cat-delete.

 

great post