ok so how do i go about getting one of these 4t45 transmissions

 

so how much $$$ do you have in the car and what parts do you have and where do you get a ported lsj head and it will bolt right up to the le5 bottom end

 

unless you have a K24

 

winning

 

•2.4 LE5 Bottom End - $400 bucks (free for you)
•2.0 LSJ Cylinder Head (Race Ported by AMMFAB) - Cylinder head was $250, porting was $1050
•+1mm Si Valves - $210
•Cometic Head Gasket - $130
•Golden Eagle Head Studs - $100
•K&N WAI w. Velocity Stack - $80
•LE5 Intake Manifold (Port Matched) - $250 (free for you)
•62.5mm Bored TB - ~$200
•Comp Cams Stage 2 N/A Cams - $470
•Supertech 78lb Valve Springs/Retainers - $380
•LZM Balance Shaft Delete - $125
•GMR Hardened Oil Pump Gears - $300
•Ford Racing (Blue Demon) 42lb/hr Fuel Injectors -$150
•AMMFAB Long Tube Stepped Race Header - $550
•Summit Racing 3" Cut-Out - $80
•QTP 3" Electric Cut-Out Plate - $170
•LZM Upper Motor Mount - $110
•Prothane Lower Motor Mount - $80
•Prothane Transmission Mounts - $50
•Quaife Helical LSD - $1000
•Custom Bully Clutch Kit (Stage 3 Disk) - $550
•A/C Delete
•EVAP Delete
•Inovate Motorsports Wideband - $150
•HP Tuned by Me - $700 (I bought the software and cable)

Those are my engine mods, some from this year, some from years before this. That puts me up to ~$7500, that doesn't include the cost to ship the parts or all the extra little bits needed in install most of them. (Some of those prices I guessed at, I bought some of them so long ago I don't remember what they are worth anymore.)

That also doesn't include the suspension upgrades and wheels and tires to get the car to get off the line.

Also, my motor should make about 205-215whp....no where near 300whp like you want.


All-motor is absolutely the worst bang for the buck there is, however to me its worth it at the end of the day when you can hang with the boosted kids.

To make a 300whp N/A motor with supporting mods you are probably looking over 10k IMO...if it can even be done (it obviously can be done, just depends who is selecting parts and building it).


Cylinder head was ported by Mike @ AMMFAB, it will bolt up to your LE5 however you will have some wiring to sort out since its not a VVT motor and I don't know how the computer will like no longer seeing those sensors. It will also probably take some light fabricating to get it in there, I'm not 100% whats involved with the Delta world, but I know on mine a few little things needed to either be clearanced or grinded, I also needed to make a block off plate for the Exhaust cam end (this is if the LE5 does use two long cams like the LSJ. If this is not the case you will also need to weld in the oil passage on the last exhaust cam journal since the short cam doesn't use the last one, not doing this could result is a lack of oil pressure to the head since the oil can free flow out that port without the cam present.)


All in all, its going to be alot of headaches and time to get that build going. No offense to you, but I don't really think you have the knowledge to pull off such a build at the moment. Either postpone the build and spend the next while reading and reading and reading about all-motor set-ups and what works (hondatech is a great place for ideas).

That or do a simple bolt-on all-motor setup and spray it with nitrous, you can also just boost it, which is the easiest and cheapest way to make power.

Good luck with whatever you choose.

 

I'd suggest going as you said, with a simple bolt-on nitrous build for maximum bang for the buck. Pistons/rods, supporting mods and a properly designed nitrous setup would set you up with a very solid 300hp engine that would be a beast.

 

http://gmtunersource.com/racertech/e...ition/download try page 27

 

so your putting down 215 all motor and running 13s in the 1/4 if i could do that that would be perfect i think ill stay with my full motor and just try to get to 220 or 230

 

He's doing it with a manual trans.

 

I have a manual trans and my car weights under 2400lbs.

Do what you want, I just don't wanna see someone waste their money.

 

look buddy they r tilling you dont do it,there r not to many 2.4s that r turboed in fla just do that less money more power.

 

ok thats cool but i am going to get the 4t45 tranny so with that what can i get? and italian joe is gonna build it for me

 

You have that trans already, thats the stock automatic. There are parts out there to build them up stronger, but with the low torque from an N/A build it won't be needed. Not sure how that trans will respond to very high rpms, but you should be ok with just an upgraded torque converter.

 

There is no such thing as a f4f45 trans.

Its a 4t45, the 4 is how many gears it has, the t stands for transverse (as in the orientation of your engine mounting) and the 45 stands for 4500lbs, as in the weight of the vechical its designed for.

Unless you can get the stock trans to shift at 7500 RPM and not blow up it will need to be modified.

Also, your going to need a 4000-5500rpm stall.


Donald - dude, seriously.....I don't wanna sound like a dick...but you don't have the knowledge to start this kinda project yet, regardless of who does it for you. Do some reading before you start picking random parts and hope they all work out. I don't think you really "get it" yet.

I seriously don't see this build happening, again no offfence, so this will be my last post in here. I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now.

Good Luck

 

weather you thinki i do or not i know what i am doing i wouldn't be building a car if i didn't i just want some input on it i know i have to match the parts together to make it work in harmony so i mean not need to be a dick about it weather your trying to be or not so i figured you would help but i guess not so if you would stay off my thread thank you
ok well we will see what happens next year thanks to all theat helped especially italian joe i appreciate it

 

so i have a 4t45 in my car already its a 2006 i figured that much cause i heard they can withstand around 300hp so i would just upgrade the stall converter so i can launch higher than 2 grand

 

so i know i sound hard headed but this is what i really want to do weather it puts me up as far as a turbo or not i want to do this and i was just asking yall help with it i know how to build and install i just need some help on what would work together

 

give me a call buddy

 

ok getting the jbp tri flow cams what would be a good piston rod valve and springs to go with them so they would all work smoothly together

 

also what about the mild performance crate engine from jbp(j-dody performance website for the le5)

 

AVOID JBP.

They are banned from here and the tri-flow camshafts were allegedly duds.

ZZP, OTTP, TTR are the big 3 vendors, Powell Race Parts, Euthenasia and a few others also fab some wicked parts for the 'balt.

 

GM build book describes a built NA engine running on E85 with 325hp

food for thought it has been done therefore it can be done again but they ran her up to 8k rpms to get there.

http://gmtunersource.com/racertech/e...ition/download

hope im not late or repeating anyone

 

no not late gonna start on her next year so any input is good thank for the link

 

bringing back an old thread here. what if the op builds the bottom end and then turbo it? i mean if hes looking for 300whp i wanna think it could be done with pump gas. think about it. they make what? 142 real world whp...bad start BUT seriously if the honda guys can build a 400hp 1.5L ANYTHING is possible with an electronic tb...i know im going to build my bottom end hopefully next year then turbo the hell out of it around 15 psi.... should keep up with the local 12 second camaros and **** around here...<<< this guy is a 2.4 auto na lol

 

with zzp stage 3 the car will hit 300whp on stock engine.