bump so we don't loose this one.....

 

i like the idea of some kinda logo so when you pop your hood your like damn...that hahn mani looks dooope!

 

sure, the hahn logo, but I think he meant like "SS" or "Supercharged" or anything like that.

 

damn I wanted to cut spending on the car..

 

its hard as long as this forum is here with all the deals and new products coming

haha yea that was just a joke , but hahn logo would be nice

 

jeez.. you left us originator ion boys out of it.. that's F'd up lol

 

Kyle, when Don saidfrom all three GM models he was talking about the Ion, G5, and cobalt and then listed the other cars that use the 2.4 So we where included

 

I think i would want something that would function with anyother after market parts. I dont want to have to purchase a new intake b/c ive replaced my intake manifold. the simpler and more compatible the product is, the more likely it is for people to purchase. But that is just my opinion.

many people like myself would like more power w/o extreme modification. I do understand that if you really want extreme gains, then you need extreme mods. you take some and you lose some in my situation.

 

haha damn me and missing thigns thats 2 times thats screwed me over i need to goto bed lol

 

definately agree with that...i dont wanna have to buy all new stuff because i changed my mani...and if it is like that i prolly wont be down for that...

 

I personally would not buy a 7-900 dollar intake even if it did net me 10-15 poneys that is way outa the reasonable price range. But then again those JBP cams are selling like mad @ 700+ ... O wait there is like 1 guy who has em, Probably because they are about $400 too expensive.

 

agreed

 

i take offence to that...im not the only person who has them...geez...haha

 

heh you know what i mean

 

A $700 intake Mani does sell. Go look at the Duratec focus there are hundreds of people paying $700 dollars for the Cosworth intake mani

Here's a link with the price.
http://www.focussport.com/cosworth-manifold.htm

I think it will sell, and people who keep saying the parts are overprice are the ones that are holding the Ecotec market back. Thngs when they first come out are not going to be cheap. You have to pay to play, if you dont like the price then dont play

 

i dont know, for us 700 is about half way for supercharging our 2.4

 

yeah 700 isn't bad but i would like it closer to 500 is possible

 

In reality $700 is about one third of the way without labor included. Once again this is depending on what you want to do with your car. I personally like all motor cars, but others like puffers and artificial atmosphere.

 

Anything to up the anty and lower my ET times with the hahn stg 2 turbo.

Im sure if Bill does it right, he could market it as a "Stage 3" upgrade kit, along with a tune to compensate.

 

I would love a long runner mani that would keep our tq we have...and help out with our top end that needs help.

Oh and make it plug and play...I would be happy to pay 800-900 dolalrs for a product that works out of box and replacement...

...not one I have to do the magic jig and splice and cut wires, and move resevoirs and and and...


Not for 800 bucks. That is semi-retarded

It is cool to take the general idea of the LSJ one and kinda use it...but I don't have an LSJ...I have an LE5 and IMO if you guys are going to offer something for us...make it for us...not a quick fix of a previoiusly made manifold for a different engine with a different layout.

If you make it so we would have to move the resevoir...now things cost more than 800 bux...even if it is only 30 bux...then we have to splice things and blah

"But Steve you gotta pay to play"

All because a company shortcutted something?

Not picking on HRC at all...I am saying it is something that bugs the **** outta me and wouldn't wanna spend my money on something that looks 'pretty' and ends up causing a giant headache all because a company decided to take the LSJ one and use it for the LE5.

That=fail

So I guess cliff notes would be:

I would buy it if it was made for our car, and fit without a bunch of bullshit. Tuning for it isn't an issue it would be splicing wires and putting the windshield washer fluid on the other side and w/e.

It would be different if it was a turbo/supercharge kit. It's not, it's a intake mani...

 

I would pay $300-$500 for a better intake minfold. Shouldn't really cost more than that.

did you get yours running better now?

 

After a long day of trying various things, i think i finally got the air out.

Ran the heater full, cap off...and held a steady rev of 2500-3500 till the coolant bottle filled up...then lowered it to about 1500ish to keep the circulation going...

After alot of those, i was eventually revving up to 5500-6000 to get the coolant bottle to fill back up...

all said and done....and a huge burp of the system later...my coolant went from overflowing, to non existant.

Tomorrow is a new day...

For the most part I can drive it wherever, atleast now when the temps hit 217, they start to drop, vs climbing.

On the way home, i turned the heater on, and in the course of about 1-2miles, temp was up to 240*....so i came to the conclussion that my air bubble was in my heater core.....got home, it was at about 245*ish, then i kept the car running, took the coolant cap off, then did my thing (was stated above).


Im havin the wife bring me home a bottle of coolant or 2, since this is the 3rd bottle of coolant i went through....

Theres just a **** ton of air in the damn line.

 

Make it better then the GMPP 4-2-1 Design, so far its the best imho.

Errr ignore that. I would love a intake manifold, this black one looks plastic and cheap.

 

I agree with this statement.

 

So we seem to have two different schools of thought here, and both of them very adamant!

The one position states a rerouting of the intake piping to air filter (in order to accomodate a repositioned throttle body) would be acceptable, and the other finds this concept less than pleasing.

I'd like to offer that should we build a short-runner manifold for 2.4 with a left-facing throttle body, we'd do so to maintain what has proven to be an effective design, and also keep costs down. It would not be an adaption of the 2.0 intake, any more than the 2.0 intake is an adaption of its earlier cousin, the Cavalier-Sunfire 2.2 intake, which is also not an adaption of ITS earlier cousin, the 2.0 Neon intake, and so on...

As one can see, the overall point being that this is a pedigreed, proven design concept not unique to just 2.0 LSJ. Tooling up to develop an entirely different concept could prove to be cost prohibitive, which could prevent any option from emerging.

That being said, I will continue to explore the concept of a manifold that retains the stock TB location and features longer runners.

Keep those likes / dislikes / desires / objectives coming, I really appreciate it!