I'd love to see the dyno results of this mod. I hate not having tuning.

 

hopefully you've been over to SCT's forums - since i see in your sig you're still waiting on HPT which has pretty much given us the finger.

 

The PCM's between the 2.0SC and the 2.4L are not the same. However both are supported by HP Tuners so its a moot point.

FMIC on supercharged vehicles are retarded no matter how you look at it. My supercoupe has a ported M90, with a large front mount intercooler (cars came stock with a small FMIC) and it will still heat soak the core in 1 pass down the strip. Blowers generate way to much heat for ATA to really be effective.

The 2.0 blower, and intercooler will work on the 2.4. It is possible that you would need an adapter for the throttle body.

GM Performance supercharger kit is for the L61 in the Cav/Sunfires only. Same reason none of us 2.2 guys are turbo yet. GM doesnt have any tuning for our PCM (plus why would they sell a supercharger kit for a model when a production supercharged model is available. Its bad business).

 

How can you call a front mount pointless? my car dropped 40 degrees when I added my intercooler, and that was at 7 psi. i wasn't aware that the water to air intercooler of the 2.0 would fit on the 2.4, so yeah, obviously that would be the best way to go.

Also, my intercooler never gets heat soak, and I make about 15 passes down the track about once a week during the summer.

John

 

http://supercoupeperformance.com/par...px?category=18
The core on this HUGE Intercooler measures 18.5" wide by 14.25" high by 3" deep and has only .5 psi pressure drop at 700 CFM.

With that intercooler on an Eaton M90 making roughly 15psi, I cannot make 2 back to back runs when its over 70 degrees outside. Thats how fast it heat soaks. Im not saying it wasnt great for power, but if I had an option with my car, I would have a air to water intercooler system.

 

so why are we waiting for the turbos? (I understand you can make more power with a turbo, but how much freakin power do you need?!?)

If we were to do the following, would we have a truely functional S/C:

Steal a 2.0 S/C
Air-Water Intercooler
I/C Piping
HP Tune
Necessary Guages
Clutch

what else am i forgetting

 

Did you have a way of checking your intake temps? I know that my intercooler never was even warm to the touch. When I run at the track--which is Cordova Dragway--by the way--my intake temps only raise about 15 degrees above ambient!!

I live in Moline and go to cordova about once a week. Next time you come down, if your gona come back down, hit me up before you do!

John

 

I am really thinking about doing this, but what would be required?

 

tuing, adapter, some hoses not much search around it has been covered, the problem is the tuning. once the whipple comes out for the 2.0 buy there old super it will be much cheaper to obtain one

 

hmmm, i am pretty sure the intake is the same bolt pattern, as for the t-body, im not sure, but you can use a 2.0 t-body or just make an adapter, tuning is there(hp tuners), so i dont see a problem, everything should go together pretty good....
here is a link for the 2.0 twin screw swap, you will find 3 guys that have all ready made a deposit on the twin screw and will probally be selling their old s/c, as for intake, you have to find one
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tag-racecraft-132/official-blower-interst-thread-40808/

i am also going this path too , but i need money, so i might have a m62 for sale soon!!

FYI- Jim at Tagracecraft was also talking about maybe making a kit to put the m62 on the 2.4, he said if you 2.4 guys show enough intrest, he will make it happen. maybe he can make an intercooler or something too, but you guys need to show the intrest before he does anything, why do you think he is making a twin screw kit for us, we should the intrest...
GOOD LUCK GUYS!!

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-4l-le5-performance-tech-46/tag-helping-us-possible-whipple-s-c-setup-41375/

 

yea i asked him what the price might be and was told around 3500 not what i would expect someone to pay when we would be using used "thrown" away superchargers maybe around 1800-2250, but dont know

 

is that for the m62? cause there was talk about building a twin srcew for you guys too.... you also have to remember that there will be alot more involve then, their is in our kit, cause all he is making is a few adapter plates and everything will bolt right up. for the 2.4, he will need to make some kind of an intake manifold, t-body adapter, seeing what size of belt you will need and if you need to change your belt system around, he might have to change things around cause your guys intake is on the pass. side, it will need to be on the drivers side, then tuning an N/A car for boost, etc.... maybe he is rebuilding the s/c aswell?? i would ask for more details, but he might also be shoting high with the price too, or maybe there is more involved than you think.....

he said 1500 to get things rolling, right? he will probally give the 1st few guys a deal or something(give the 1st 5 2.0 guys free tuning), and the more people that will buy this or put down a deposit, the cheaper he can sell them.....
i think that anything between 2500-3000 would be a pretty good deal for you guys, cause there is alot more involve than just a simple blower swap. 3500 does seem a little high but i dont know what will be included.

if you think about it, turbo is going to cost around 4g, right?? this kit maybe +/-3g, now, it will also be alot easier to install. being realistic, a right sized turbo can probally make more power but how much more power can the 2.4 take without having to tear it down for a rebuild?? this s/c with only 8-10psi will make lots of power with your high comp 2.4 and s/c are alot more better for daily driving, i think you guys will probally have a nice flat torque curve too.

if you plan on rebuilding the engine and going big, than i would go turbo or try pushing a twinscrew swap, but if you want an easy to install power, cheaper, then i think this will be the way, this blower should be lots for your 2.4

 

i would be very happy with a s/c.

hanh who?

 

i see where you are coming from and you are right i have no idea what he would included in the price, who knows but your right if everything and i mean everything then 3500 doesn't sound bad with it being rebuilt or what ever. the problem lies in not having a clear cut final prouduct with results clear cut final price, once those 2 main things are settled i can see people jumping in on them.

 

yea da 2.0 s/c would not bolt right on because u might need da intake throttle body



2007 yellow 2.4L cobalt Ss wit cold air intake and exhaust...SS/SC spoiler coming in the mail

it won t bolt on directly due to the different intake throttle body





2007 yellow 2.4L SS wit cold air intake and exhaust system...SS/SC spoiler cooming in the mail soon

 

holy deja-vu in a post....

 

I know somebody on here awhile back made a list of all the part syou would need to put the 2.0 Supercharger on the 2.4. But it required a bunch of parts and custom tubing etc. Just wait for Hahn Racecraft to get that 240 fwhp and tq system done. I have heard the 5 speed setups is done and they are still doing the automatics now. Take it easy lol

 

Tubing?

It's a roots type supercharger. It's main parts is the intake manifold where the supercharger bolts onto, the pulley and the belt. No tubing of any kind is involved...

 

Quote: Originally Posted by CobaltKidsI know somebody on here awhile back made a list of all the part syou would need to put the 2.0 Supercharger on the 2.4. But it required a bunch of parts and custom tubing etc. Just wait for Hahn Racecraft to get that 240 fwhp and tq system done. I have heard the 5 speed setups is done and they are still doing the automatics now. Take it easy lol

lol hes talking about my thread i made a while back....yea i wasnt thinkin one night and i typed a response saying that you would need custom tubing....he obviously didnt read it after i revised it...haha....nah all you would need is an lsj intake....ecm is the biggest hold back

 

If some one would fab it up and i knew someone who could tune i would just buy a thrown away m62 to pop on there

 

Gotcha.

 

You would have to find someone to make a custom accessory belt setup or try to get the one out of the GM 2.2 eco kit somehow. The LSJ belt and tensioner definetly will not work on a 2.4.

 

i heard GM was coming out with a s/c kit for the 2.4. this true?

 

It would defeat the point of having the SS/SC...

So no.

 

About my post, sorry about the misleadin. I didnt get on here for awhile and didnt see his re-post. But maybe after GM puts out the supposed 260hp turbo coby they will come out with an SC for the 2.4 and 2.2! lol