Dont even worry about the oil. Not worth it

 

Lol, thanks. I didn't think so.

 

Good brands besides the catback. And I don't really want to spend that much on a kit. I was just going to buy a stock k04 kit. And then later on upgrade little at a time.

 

How did I miss this thread? lol someone give me cliff notes so I don't have to read 7 pages

 

op said he was gonna run 14.999 atleast, everyone told him mid to low 15 would be all he get, op went to trank ran mid to low 15s and blamed it on the dust on his tires.

 

Lmao

 

I respectfully disagree.

everyone changes their oil. Changing to the CORRECT oil for YOUR application / driving style etc. matters.

one informational site is - Bob is the Oil Guy read the "oil 101" stuff

but, basically what I'm saying is that you will see a gain, however small. it's essentially "free" as you were talking about changing it anyways, so how is "free" not worth it ?

 

 

When people start claiming their oil adds power, all hope is lost

 

not what I'm claiming at all.

Although if that were true, all the manufacturers claiming changing to their oil "adds 5 hp" or whatever, I'd just go buy 5 different brands and change the oil 5 times. that's 25 hp, right?

it's not about "adding power" --- oil doesn't do that. it's about reducing friction. study a little on "viscous friction". Look up "bearing surface area" while you're at it, and see what serious engine builders say about reducing journal diameter and width. (I realize this doesn't apply in this case, you're not building an engine, but it's informational)

I think you'll all agree with me that if you drained the 5w30 out and put straight 70 weight in that the thicker oil would slow the engine down. so how would the opposite not be true?

good racers run the thinnest oil they can, that won't allow engine damage to occur. Ask anyone in NHRA Stock Eliminator what they run. I guarantee it isn't what was manufacturer recommended.

 

If you put a sticker on your car for each of the brands of each different oil manufacturer, it adds an extra 35% WHP to your car, because you're using 5w30, and 5+30 =35.. duh..

 

Well this is a cobalt with a LE5. Especially with beating on it at the strip the oil will be already thin from being hot.

Take into account that if he goes to the track at the end of the oil life (like the did this time) then it will DEFINITELY already be thinned.

 

Makes more sense now. You had me worried a minute ago that we were gonna start hearing claims of "if you switch to this oil you'll gain 10 whp"

 

c'mon dude ! you KNOW it's true! Joe Gibbs says so, Brad Penn says so, Mobil One says so, LAT says so, Redline says so..... I'm tellin' ya, that's an EASY 25 hp right there !

 

oh **** ! I totally forgot about the sticker factor ! Crap- you'll have that car in the 10's easy !

 

I'm excited!!

 

60' was consistently in the mid-high 2.3's, trap speed was 89.89-91.06

 

Nice try.. Clearly you're part of the group that Hooked on Phonics deemed "The Lost Causes". ACTUAL cliff notes will follow. And by the way, my front tires are STILL coated in dirt, and there's rocks stuck in my tread.. I'm about to wash my car but I'll be more than happy to take some pics for you. Starting to think you're from the "Show Me" state...

-I said I was taking my car to the track for the first time to see what times I can run.

-My goal was 14.9

-The range of predictions I received was 15.3 (by nhanson) as the lowest, to 16.1 (by Pedobear) at the highest. There were only 2 predictions that said LOW 15's, majority said high 15's.

-The event got postponed last weekend, so I updated and prepped for 11/2/12.

-Went to the track 11/2/12 for my first run Ran on track from 7pm-11pm, about 43°F.

-Just changed my thermostat that day, it started acting up, giving me coolant temperatures ranging from 220-240F°.

-Tire pressure was about 32psi, forgot to lower.

I ran 5 times. First run coolant temp: 228 cooling fan on high.

-1st Time: Forgot to brake start. Didn't know how far the run off was, where the 1/4 ends. Ended up about 25 feet off the end, in the sand pit. Front tires 75% BURIED in dirty, fine gravel. 15.443 @ 89.90.

-2nd Time: Brake Started, tires coated in dust/dirt from the sand pit on previous run. 15.38 @ 89.89.

-3rd Time: Sent back to pit to clean out gravel from run 1

-4th Time: Cleaned some gravel out, brake started. Hit an oil patch, ran high 16. Lane got closed

-5th Time: Got coolant down to 176 at start, ended with 230. best run 15.253 @ 91.06

-I still think that I can run 14.999, just need a few tweaks, and I have people agreeing.

-My list that I feel would've given me a better shot-
-Clean tires
-Fresh oil change
-Fuel injector cleaner
-Passenger seat removal
-Lower Tire pressure in the front to like 26, from 32+
-coolant temp not ******* up
-2 gallons less gas in my tank, I had 3.5 after 5 hours. 1/4 gallon used per run, pulled 20.2mpg even while idling in line (:
EcoBalt strikes again

 

it doesn't thin as much as you might think.

EXAMPLE: I have a worn out 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis-- bad guides and seals, that I don't warm up before I take off for short drives. It experiences fuel dilution BADLY, and uses oil pretty quickly. I sent in a sample @ over 4000 mi. with 5w30 Mobil 1 full synthetic.

the oil additive package was perfect, and the thinning due to fuel dilution (over 5% fuel content in this case ) was less than one full grade.

When I bought my LSJ It had fresh 5w30 Mobil 1 in it. I changed it after 4500 miles, didn't send in a sample. I put in 0w30 Mobil 1 "extended performance" or whatever the crap with the green cap is. Sent in a sample at 3000 miles-- additive package perfect, viscosity still in range, almost no fuel, negligible wear metals-- "run it another 3000 and take another sample"

 

Point is you didn't get a 14.9 like you said.

 

No, MY point is I didn't get a 15.7 like YOU said.

 

Still nothing spectacular. You just need more mods

 

Well I was just guessing and you were pretty confident that you would get a 14.9 when we all told you that you wouldn't.

 

Car is capable of a high 14. Just get the right mods

 

The laundry list of excuses. I for one think you can get a 14.9 and hope you eventually do but you should just say yeah i'll get that 14.9 next time, because anyone whos been to the track can use excuses. I could have broke into the 12's with my lsj if I took all my interior out ran a more aggresive tune (boom) and even cleaned my tires with a toothbrush before my run but you know what I did not and therefore I did not break into the 12's.