Adding a supercharger/turbo???
07-17-2007 | 06:47 PM
#51
it just wouldn't be covered by the warranty though
07-17-2007 | 07:37 PM
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Pics please, cause Im waiting on elecblue to finish his build, or possibly starting my own build, but if I see this I may change my mind
07-17-2007 | 08:31 PM
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lol
07-17-2007 | 11:01 PM
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thought i was rite..i just started working at a Chevy dealership today and i talked to the parts guy..he said theres no chance a cav S/C kit will fit on a cobalt, and if you made it fit it would void your warrenty up the ass!
07-18-2007 | 12:50 AM
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did you not understand what i said you cant ask the chevy guys because they dont know **** they just think they do you have to call and ask GENERAL MOTORS. I'm not dicking around i've put alot of work into my girls car and i've done alot of research and trust me she wouldnt let me do a damn thing to her car if it voids the warranty. i've talked to several different dealerships and they have all told me something diffferent and if you call GM they will tell you that they do have a supercharger that is for the 2.4L and it wont void your warranty and we have had several people tell us that they wiill send it to us in writing and they will also give us the book that tells us everything about the warranty on the car. so if you want to sit here and arguing i can go all day and night or you can get up off your asses get GM"S number and call them if you cant get their number call your dealership and tell them you need to speak with someone from GM and they will either call them for or get them to call you!
07-18-2007 | 12:56 AM
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did you not understand what i said you cant ask the chevy guys because they dont know **** they just think they do you have to call and ask GENERAL MOTORS. I'm not dicking around i've put alot of work into my girls car and i've done alot of research and trust me she wouldnt let me do a damn thing to her car if it voids the warranty. i've talked to several different dealerships and they have all told me something diffferent and if you call GM they will tell you that they do have a supercharger that is for the 2.4L and it wont void your warranty and we have had several people tell us that they wiill send it to us in writing and they will also give us the book that tells us everything about the warranty on the car. so if you want to sit here and arguing i can go all day and night or you can get up off your asses get GM"S number and call them if you cant get their number call your dealership and tell them you need to speak with someone from GM and they will either call them for or get them to call you!
07-18-2007 | 12:59 AM
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did you not understand what i said you cant ask the chevy guys because they dont know **** they just think they do you have to call and ask GENERAL MOTORS. I'm not dicking around i've put alot of work into my girls car and i've done alot of research and trust me she wouldnt let me do a damn thing to her car if it voids the warranty. i've talked to several different dealerships and they have all told me something diffferent and if you call GM they will tell you that they do have a supercharger that is for the 2.4L and it wont void your warranty and we have had several people tell us that they wiill send it to us in writing and they will also give us the book that tells us everything about the warranty on the car. so if you want to sit here and arguing i can go all day and night or you can get up off your asses get GM"S number and call them if you cant get their number call your dealership and tell them you need to speak with someone from GM and they will either call them for or get them to call you!
07-18-2007 | 01:30 AM
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i would believe the GM guys over the Chevy guys any day and the 2.4l motor that is in the cobalts is not an ecotec it is just a standerd 2.4l vvt (variable valve timing) motor it does not have the ecotec label. and i do not know that part number but i can have it to you by tomorrow and right now its running me about 56 dollars a month that is for supercharger, exhaust, intake, and exhaust manifold and that also includes installation
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
Last edited by kermit5327; 07-18-2007 at 01:30 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
07-18-2007 | 01:37 AM
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i would believe the GM guys over the Chevy guys any day and the 2.4l motor that is in the cobalts is not an ecotec it is just a standerd 2.4l vvt (variable valve timing) motor it does not have the ecotec label. and i do not know that part number but i can have it to you by tomorrow and right now its running me about 56 dollars a month that is for supercharger, exhaust, intake, and exhaust manifold and that also includes installation
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
07-18-2007 | 01:38 AM
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i would believe the GM guys over the Chevy guys any day and the 2.4l motor that is in the cobalts is not an ecotec it is just a standerd 2.4l vvt (variable valve timing) motor it does not have the ecotec label. and i do not know that part number but i can have it to you by tomorrow and right now its running me about 56 dollars a month that is for supercharger, exhaust, intake, and exhaust manifold and that also includes installation
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
07-18-2007 | 02:37 AM
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07-18-2007 | 03:07 AM
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Damn this guy just doesn't get it.
Sure the actual s/c blower will bolt up to the cobalt ecotecs. But there is the difference of drive by wire (balt) and drive by cable (cavi). So technically no it won't just bolt up no problem.
Also, there is no GM tune for it.
I don't care who you think you talked to, but they are wrong. My dad works at a Chevy dealer, and I am friends with 2 GMPP guys, and they all know for a fact, that w/o some major modifications, and a tuning program such as HPT, it will not work. Even when you get it to work, it will never be warrantied by GM. PERIOD.
- Rep for that wonderful attitude you have about something you know nothing about.
Sure the actual s/c blower will bolt up to the cobalt ecotecs. But there is the difference of drive by wire (balt) and drive by cable (cavi). So technically no it won't just bolt up no problem.
Also, there is no GM tune for it.
I don't care who you think you talked to, but they are wrong. My dad works at a Chevy dealer, and I am friends with 2 GMPP guys, and they all know for a fact, that w/o some major modifications, and a tuning program such as HPT, it will not work. Even when you get it to work, it will never be warrantied by GM. PERIOD.
- Rep for that wonderful attitude you have about something you know nothing about.
07-18-2007 | 03:33 AM
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i would believe the GM guys over the Chevy guys any day and the 2.4l motor that is in the cobalts is not an ecotec it is just a standerd 2.4l vvt (variable valve timing) motor it does not have the ecotec label. and i do not know that part number but i can have it to you by tomorrow and right now its running me about 56 dollars a month that is for supercharger, exhaust, intake, and exhaust manifold and that also includes installation
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
as for projekt im not taking a sc kit from a cavy and putting it on my cobalt im putting a 2.4l sc kit from GM that they offer that fits on the cobalts on my cobalt
And there is no such kit for a 2.4L ECOTEC (LE5) motor. If you're talking about the Supercharger kit from a 2.4L Twin Cam (LD9) motor, it has NOTHING to do with the LE5 and will not work at all.
Damn this guy just doesn't get it.
Sure the actual s/c blower will bolt up to the cobalt ecotecs. But there is the difference of drive by wire (balt) and drive by cable (cavi). So technically no it won't just bolt up no problem.
Also, there is no GM tune for it.
I don't care who you think you talked to, but they are wrong. My dad works at a Chevy dealer, and I am friends with 2 GMPP guys, and they all know for a fact, that w/o some major modifications, and a tuning program such as HPT, it will not work. Even when you get it to work, it will never be warrantied by GM. PERIOD.
- Rep for that wonderful attitude you have about something you know nothing about.
Sure the actual s/c blower will bolt up to the cobalt ecotecs. But there is the difference of drive by wire (balt) and drive by cable (cavi). So technically no it won't just bolt up no problem.
Also, there is no GM tune for it.
I don't care who you think you talked to, but they are wrong. My dad works at a Chevy dealer, and I am friends with 2 GMPP guys, and they all know for a fact, that w/o some major modifications, and a tuning program such as HPT, it will not work. Even when you get it to work, it will never be warrantied by GM. PERIOD.
- Rep for that wonderful attitude you have about something you know nothing about.
But I do agree, he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about...
did you not understand what i said you cant ask the chevy guys because they dont know **** they just think they do you have to call and ask GENERAL MOTORS. I'm not dicking around i've put alot of work into my girls car and i've done alot of research and trust me she wouldnt let me do a damn thing to her car if it voids the warranty. i've talked to several different dealerships and they have all told me something diffferent and if you call GM they will tell you that they do have a supercharger that is for the 2.4L and it wont void your warranty and we have had several people tell us that they wiill send it to us in writing and they will also give us the book that tells us everything about the warranty on the car. so if you want to sit here and arguing i can go all day and night or you can get up off your asses get GM"S number and call them if you cant get their number call your dealership and tell them you need to speak with someone from GM and they will either call them for or get them to call you!
You do realize that on a daily basis, everything revolves around stock parts, maintenance and repairing vehicles. They aren't cobalt geeks and they aren't going to know what every part is available by "GMPP". There ARE GM Performance Dealerships that deal with them on a daily basis that would or at least should know. You're getting mixed answers because they are not going to be sure.
I am telling you this now like I previously posted...
There is NO supercharger kit for the 2.4L ECOTEC (LE5) Cobalts...there is a Supercharger kit for the 2.4L Twin Cam (LD9) J-bodies but it will NOT work on your application.
ok so i might be new to the fourms but this is the first topic that i read and i think you guys are a bunch of dicks if the boy wants to turbo or supercharge his car then let him because if i was him i would do it anyway and he also dont have to worrie about his warranty because G.M. offers a supercharger kit for the 2.4l cobalt that you can have installed by the the dealership that you baught your car from without voiding any part of your warranty but you have to make sure it is ok with the company that you have your warranty through but your dealership should be able to tell you wether your warranty provider will allow the modification of your engine or not. and i do believe that they are just pissed off because they know that if you supercharge your 2.4 you'll be waxing ss/sc's like there nothing even with the stage 2 upgrade because the stock 2.0 ss/sc only pushes 205 and the STOCK ss 2.4l already pushes out 171 if you were to add a supercharger to the car and run it under stock psi at about 8 you should be getting around 211 to the wheels if you have the car tuned properly up to 18 psi you sould have any were from 240 to 275 minimum to the wheels all you have left to do after that is intake and exhaust G.M. offers an aftermarket exhaust kit to have installed for around $800 the supercharger kit is around another $4000
I have the supercharger kit installed on my stock nothing aftermarket sept G.M.'s exhaust kit automatic 07 2.4l running at about 13 psi and i raced a ss/sc stage 2 and pulled cars on him
And thats all that i have to say thank you uh huh
I have the supercharger kit installed on my stock nothing aftermarket sept G.M.'s exhaust kit automatic 07 2.4l running at about 13 psi and i raced a ss/sc stage 2 and pulled cars on him
And thats all that i have to say thank you uh huh
It's called being responsible to the automotive community. It's like a little kid coming to you saying that he wants a BBGun...because he wants it, does it mean he should have it? No. He is not capable of handling such a project and me and Brian have PLENTY of reason and personal experience to say what is needed mentally, financially and responsibility wise to handle such a project.
The whole comment about the "warrantied" supercharger kit...well...I already blew that out the water.
Show us pictures of your setup.
I got some questions for you Mr Waxing SS/SCs
1. What's your a/f ratio at wide open throttle?
2. How many degrees of knock are you experiencing?
3. What are you tuning with?
4. What kind of blinker fluid are you using?
5. What kind of wastegate are you using?
If you can answer these questions, I'd greatly appreciate it. You're a idiot if you answer #4 and #5 and if you have anything besides 0 degrees of knock, I will laugh so hard that I will *** in my pants lol
Last edited by NJHK; 07-18-2007 at 03:34 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
07-18-2007 | 03:56 AM
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Yeah I must have missed that line. Thats a good one. Non Ecotec in a Cobalt. Pffft... It's actually just about moving the throttle body around. I'm under the impression that the throttle body would still bolt up to the snout/tb opening but I might be wrong. It would be more of a hassle for the mechanical throttle body as far as moving than a electronic throttle body.
But I do agree, he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about...
But I do agree, he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about...
Kermit - We aren't mad at you, we are just trying to inform you that many others have considered doing this a long time before you did, and they did the research on it. Just read, use the search button, and ask the occassional question, we are here to help out eachother. After all we all own cobalts (or ecotecs Adam
)
1. What's your a/f ratio at wide open throttle?
2. How many degrees of knock are you experiencing?
3. What are you tuning with?
4. What kind of blinker fluid are you using?
5. What kind of wastegate are you using?
If you can answer these questions, I'd greatly appreciate it. You're a idiot if you answer #4 and #5 and if you have anything besides 0 degrees of knock, I will laugh so hard that I will *** in my pants lol
2. How many degrees of knock are you experiencing?
3. What are you tuning with?
4. What kind of blinker fluid are you using?
5. What kind of wastegate are you using?
If you can answer these questions, I'd greatly appreciate it. You're a idiot if you answer #4 and #5 and if you have anything besides 0 degrees of knock, I will laugh so hard that I will *** in my pants lol
07-18-2007 | 09:51 AM
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this calls for a special cat for this one
njhk ftw on this one..
man i'm so proud of myself for making this cat up alll by myself
njhk ftw on this one..
man i'm so proud of myself for making this cat up alll by myself
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07-18-2007 | 11:45 AM
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well theres no "KIT" supercharger for the 2.4 but you can use the one from the 2.0 cobalt any year so far as i know. and with proper tuning and parts it will work just to costly for the bang!!!
ryan. would be an interesting build is all thats why i just wanted to research it for some guys
ryan. would be an interesting build is all thats why i just wanted to research it for some guys