im wondering that too

 

haha the kids scared now now he's trying to talk about his friend twin turbo 3000 gt yea like thats even fair...

 

everytime he tries to make a pathetic insult, he recieves 10 more back at him and does not respond to any of them because hes a little bitch.

And no, a 15 year old cant have a family so the honda is obviosly his moms car.

 

qft man

 

So what was your 1/4 mile time in that video you posted at the beginning of the thread? I noticed the camera didn't zoom in.

 

i wouldnt zoom in on a 16 second run on a car that is capable of low 15's either...

 

Ouch, that hurt (see sig). SS/NA's up here are running mid to high 16's, and even some very low 17's. Altitude is a killer.

 

Pulling the friends card again huh.... unfortunately it is quicker than your 2.4ss.....but the 3000gt's are heavy as ****...they run like high 13's in stock form. Get some bolt ons and race it from a roll.....might be alittle closer...hopefully you've got a driver mod and they dont...

 

yea before the other kid had a vw turbo and they were talkin **** to me about that now the kid as the 3000 GT it pisses me off and i'm in high school as you know but i'm takin a college autotech class and my dad want me to build a 67 chevy c10 and make it a drag truck so that'll be my real racer

 

I wouldnt worry about it....sounds like a bunch of fanbois that dont know squat You've gotta pretty nice ride for someone thats in high school.....so F him...he's just jealous...so he has to get his homeboys ride just to down you.

 

thanks man will do

 

i dont see why this thread is still going lol. we have more torque factory, they have more horspower. its about an even trade-off and usually ours cars are about dead even unless its a roll and the Si will slightly overpower 2.4's. if youre doing from a dig then you should get him with an intake and shortshifter. learn how to launch, its not tough. try revving up to 2500RPM (thats what i do) and try the best combination of clutch and gas to launch the car with a little (very little) tire spin and you should be straight. after you beat him, tell him to shut the **** up and get his loud ass mouth and go home.

 

When I was stock on 2.4L.. I've run a dead heat with an Si from about 45 mph. He'll eventually get you on the top end because his higher rev limit and advantage of an additional gear (so 4th and 5th are more 'powerful').

From a dig, you'll edge him for a while, he has no torque. On a 1/4, he'd probably beat you by 0.2 or so.

An SS/SC will completely ******* destroy an Si. A stock SC has MUCH MORE than 205 hp, and puts more hp than sticker claimed to the wheels (think it's like 214 on average) and about 170 torque.

So basically, an Si has 200 hp and like 140 tq (crank). An SC has something like 225 hp and 195 tq (crank).

Also, a manual 2.4 will take a scion tc, to say otherwise is a ridiculous claim. 2.4 is more powerful and lighter.

 

i think the new Cobalt XFE even rapes tC's, while getting twice the mileage, Scion failed, yet so many people still buy that car even though it goes slow and is ugly as ****

 

The tC is a factory designed ricer. We looked at them when shopping for my wife's car (the SS/SC) and there are just so many more cars in the price range that offer much more performance and comfort. That isn't to mention the Scion looks and feels really cheap, all over... way beyond "Cobalt rattle" cheap, like Hyundai cheap.

Worst part about the tC is you can't bargain with the bastards. You have to ORDER your car, so everything it comes with, you asked for. That means you pay sticker.. and that's for dipshits.

The Si isn't a bad car, but it's overpriced. Considering you can get a SS/TC or Mazdaspeed3 for about the same (or less) as a moderately decked out Si (factory body kit, performance exhaust, 18" wheels) it's no bargain. Especially if you've actually DRIVEN speed3 or an SS/SC(TC) - I can't imagine anyone making that ignorant purchase.

 

im glad your banned.
for someone throwing around the "fanboi" word....
you sure define the word quite nicely.

a stock SI is not an even match for the ss/sc
they are a good solid half second slower.

 

I drove a 2.4 Scion a couple of weeks ago, and it couldn't pull a greasy string out of a hogs ass..lol.... Slow!!
I dont know about a Civic Si, but my mom has a Civic Lx and it is painfully slow, but it gets over 40MPG..lol

 

Wow, I love this thread and the fanboys of both sides

And to the ss/sc owners that bash 2.4L SS's, you really need to grow up. Its the same car you have, just a few different parts involved, its still a cobalt. And its still quick for a NAtural Aspiration 4 cylinder engine.

 

i'm not a fan boy i just asked a question and got 17.5 pages of bs and 1/2 page of honest answers

 

ahh!! nuts you said what i've wanted to for soo long! (Most of these guys, not everyone). The sc ppl compare their SUPERCHARGED car to a 2.4, and thats ******* stupid. You can't compare your SC Cobalt to a NA 2.4 or a 2.2. most of you guys are so stuck up in your own **** it's ridicolous. And the ones who bitch about this post are EXACTLY the ones i'm talking about

 

damn he was banned?? crap no more hilarity

 

I by no means was calling you a fan boy sir!!! You were verbally "assaulted: by a bunch of **** talkers after practice. And I agree with this guy here:



It is quite ridiculous and I can't believe any human being has to be that ridiculous to rip on another persons car. That goes for anyone's car as a matter of fact. If someone likes a Honda don't rip on them, harass them, call them dumb, retarded, or slow, etc..... etc... etc...

That is their personal preference, maybe I didn't prefer the SS/SC cause I liked something about the SS/NA and didn't need speed. Sometimes you sacrifice performance for visual eye candy... big deal. It goes both ways boys and girls.


You 08Sport, have a hell of a car for a high school student. I drove an '89 ranger that looked like hell, from high school thru college. I didn't have the luxury of having a car that nice. If they're saying something like "my friend... this and that..." just blow it off. I'm 21, graduated college laster year with a 2 year degree. So I have been in a place like yours within the last few years. I ALWAYS had people picking on my truck. It got me where I needed to go, it had 4 wheel drive, and I could beat on it and not worry about the dealer telling me the warranty wouldn't cover it. SO I didn't give a **** what they said.

 

Yes, it is a Cobalt. But there are many differences. I know because I have both. Just the engine alone sets the 2 apart. Different trannies, different suspension, even styling differences. The big thing it has in common is the frame (just like the HHR), the name, and various other components that don't make that much of a difference (doors, seats for non-G85 SS's, etc.) I am in no way bashing the SS/NA. As I said earlier, I have an 06 SS/SC and a 07 SS/NA. I just know that there are a lot of differences. Fortunately, various aftermarket parts can be shared such as strut tower bars and rear sway bars. Even CAI's have to be different.

...But yes, it is still a Cobalt. And it is fairly quick for a NA 4-banger.

 

I also have both, and the 2.0 is a much better car in almost every regard.

If I'd known what I know now when I bought the 2.4... I probably wouldn't have. The 2.4 is a good car, and I'm really looking forward to finishing up the turbo build (hopefully be on the road by mid-next week) but if you want performance, the SS/SC (or TC of course..) is where it's at. Better engine, better transmission, better suspension and all around better fit and finish.

 

the 2.4 responds better to boost then the 2.0. it was proven when someone swapped a stock supercharger onto the 2.4 and only ran it at 6 psi and still got almost 220 whp, where the 2.0 hits 12psi and is only 205.

Dont get me wrong, the 2.0 is a great motor, but a better motor? dont know about that, only reason its quick is because of the supercharger lol, if it was n/a it be slower then the 2.2 eco.

The tranny yes, they have us on that but there are people with over 400hp on our trannies without issues, so our trannies are still fine. The suspension is better because they have bigger swaybars, thats easy to fix.