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Old 08-18-2008 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSergeant
I also have both, and the 2.0 is a much better car in almost every regard.

If I'd known what I know now when I bought the 2.4... I probably wouldn't have. The 2.4 is a good car, and I'm really looking forward to finishing up the turbo build (hopefully be on the road by mid-next week) but if you want performance, the SS/SC (or TC of course..) is where it's at. Better engine, better transmission, better suspension and all around better fit and finish.
Same here, I wish I would have come across this website sooner. I would have bought an ss/sc off another member, or waitedt for the TC to come out. But I bought the SS/NA because there were no SC's for sale around here at that time. I should have waited a few months since there was a black one shortly after I bought mine.

Originally Posted by an0malous
and 75% of 2.4 owners have such small dick envy, and buyers remorse....that everything turns into a knock against their car.

dont pretend its all the big bad ss/sc owners please.
we have had this argument a thousand times before, there is equal stupidity from both sides of this pathetic trim argument.
just ignore them both, and everything will be great.
I wasn't trying to start this arguement. I was just merely pointing out that they are both a cobalt, there are some differences in parts that make one better then another. But they are still a cobalt, and people shouldn't rip on another members car just because its not as fast or it doesn't look as good. YOu do things to your own car to suit your own needs, not someone elses.

Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
lol most of the arguments start when 2.4 owners get told they have a fake SS and shouldnt have the SS badge, who the **** else would start that argument besides an SS/SC owner lol. Theres a million of those arguments out there, they arent started by 2.4 owners.

You can make it all a big finger pointing game all you want, the reason most 2.4 owners are pissed is because they dont like being talked down to because their car is slower. No cobalt is crazy fast, thats why they ALL have mods that can be done to them.

All i hear is "oh thats a fake SS, not even supercharged"
"oh yea that 2.4 is a dog compared to my SC"
"man why would you get the 2.4 and not the 2.0? its a wayy better motor"

Each party is guilty of name calling, but now your calling out 75% of the 2.4 owners and your saying that WE start it? hypocrite
We can all sit here and point fingers and yes this is one of the leading causes for the start of the arguements. But the 2.4 guys don't need to take it so seriously and the 2.0 guys don't need to run their mouths so much. Why not try to look at the better side of both cars.
Its funny because a lot of the guys with 2.0's now were probably the same guys in the Z24 before the cobalt came out. That is a lesser of an engine then that of the CObalt SS/NA.
Old 08-18-2008 | 04:19 PM
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i like both cars, if i had the chance i would jump onto an SS/TC right now lol
Old 08-18-2008 | 07:09 PM
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I will rip you all...bring it.

Ion > God > Cobalt > Civic
Old 08-18-2008 | 08:31 PM
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i like both cars, if i had the chance i would jump onto an SS/TC right now lol
DO IT! hahaha....if we could alot of us would wouldnt we. oh well guess I'll keep dreaming....
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:01 PM
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thats ok, im just going to buy some TC wheels in the spring, the lip kit from the SS/SC model, lower it and tint it.

then pretend i have a turbo under the hood, cheaper that way lol
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:10 PM
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There's a loaded black '08 SS/TC that's been on my local lot for about 3 weeks now.......I guess no one wants it. I should go over there and offer my car for straight across trade to take it off their hands, haha.
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
thats ok, im just going to buy some TC wheels in the spring, the lip kit from the SS/SC model, lower it and tint it.

then pretend i have a turbo under the hood, cheaper that way lol
lol...yeah...I do love the rims off the new TC's...sounds like a plan.
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick0716
There's a loaded black '08 SS/TC that's been on my local lot for about 3 weeks now.......I guess no one wants it. I should go over there and offer my car for straight across trade to take it off their hands, haha.
if i could find a dealership to do that or even somewhere close to that, i woulda done it by now lol
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:53 PM
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o jeez

thats funny considering i raced a 4door si last weekend even from a 40 roll i pulled 3 cars
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:01 PM
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they are over hyped, they have the potential to be fast but most newbie teenagers who dont have a clue on how to drive own them, put big heavy wings on them and a coffee can
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mmcgee123
thats funny considering i raced a 4door si last weekend even from a 40 roll i pulled 3 cars
you must remember i'm AUTOMATIC and my only supporting mod to fight back against a 6m is the shiftplus and power wise is my k&n sri
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:21 PM
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then dont race him, its a damn race not the end of the world. Only way to find out who will win is if u race him, 10000 people could say ur car is faster, but its not going to give it any extra horsepower.
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:24 PM
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Old 08-18-2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
then dont race him, its a damn race not the end of the world. Only way to find out who will win is if u race him, 10000 people could say ur car is faster, but its not going to give it any extra horsepower.
true... but i don't like loosing and everyone dog's on my car but this year the "fast" group in my school talks about my car their fastest car is a tt vr4
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:41 PM
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well if ur that scared of their opinion, then they are really going to look down at u if u back out of a challenge too.

Better to go down swinging then taking a dive
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:49 PM
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i donno in an auto, but i say just race him and find out, and if he pulls the 'oh my friend has....' line, tell him that it would beat his POS too then laugh in his face. that will really get his blood boiling.
Old 08-19-2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
well if ur that scared of their opinion, then they are really going to look down at u if u back out of a challenge too.

Better to go down swinging then taking a dive
no no... i think that they were talking about how the vr4 will be a good race against it but that would end very badly 4 me OH **** i forgot to ask another kid in the group says his mitsubishi outlander can beat me its rated 4 220 hp at the crank and weight is unknown is there anywere to find weight?? his suv will be slightly heavier cause he's got subs in the back and this punk ass kid is like the one with his moms si

Standard GVWR (lb.) 5181 thats the mitsubishi +about 200 lbs. of subs
Old 08-19-2008 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 08sport
you must remember i'm AUTOMATIC and my only supporting mod to fight back against a 6m is the shiftplus and power wise is my k&n sri
Just put in some nitrous and secretly use it without him knowing it.

And you will kill that SUV.
Old 08-19-2008 | 11:36 AM
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i raced at New england dragway this weekend i ran a15.31 and my friend ran a 15.26 in his Si. its avery close race. his was a 4 door stick and mines a 2 door stick. he has an intake and cat back. i have an intake. so its all a drivers race IMO
Old 08-19-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Just tell himyou want to race for fun ON A TRACK designated for racing. Keep it off the street. If he wins, give him props, if you win he should give them to you. Congratulate whomever on the win, and if they act like asses about winning or losing, then they are not worth your time. Remember that true friends won't pull that **** on you. Those that aren't true friends won't be there the rest fo your life and their opinions don't mean ****. Your education and sports are what should matter, showing off momy and daddies money is irresponsible in their parts. Especially if you pay for your own car and not your parents.
Old 08-19-2008 | 04:28 PM
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IMO if you have to use someone else's car to beat your opponent something is obviously wrong
Old 08-22-2008 | 08:48 AM
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cars are slow for sho.
Old 08-22-2008 | 10:53 AM
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no no... i think that they were talking about how the vr4 will be a good race against it but that would end very badly 4 me OH **** i forgot to ask another kid in the group says his mitsubishi outlander can beat me its rated 4 220 hp at the crank and weight is unknown is there anywere to find weight?? his suv will be slightly heavier cause he's got subs in the back and this punk ass kid is like the one with his moms si

Standard GVWR (lb.) 5181 thats the mitsubishi +about 200 lbs. of subs
I'm jumping in a little late on this thread, and I don't feel like reading every page to see if someone's asked this or not, but I'm guessing you have never taken your car to a drag strip to see what it runs. If that's the case to give you an idea of what you might run, my wife's ss ran a 16 flat with just an intake and her's is an auto. I don't know how good the shift plus works but I would guess you are probably somewhere in the high 15's. That being said I've seen si's run from 14.9 to 16. Like everyone else is saying it really comes down to the driver. He should beat you in the si since you automatic, but if he can't drive you win and you can make fun of him for a losing to you in a car that is supposed to be faster than yours. As far as a TT goes you are looking at about mid 14's, so if you are worried about your rep don't do it. You should kill the outlander:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-...ag-Racing.html

You wanted an idea of how your car would do, this is my oppinion. If you really want to know, forget about this thread and just race him and see. But do it at a track, cause street racing can get you in a lot of trouble. Here's a tip, you might have better luck with the si in an eighth mile. Well that's my two cents.
Old 08-22-2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
cars are slow for sho.
hey we already went over this... i f'd up on the title
Old 08-22-2008 | 11:12 AM
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a lot of honda civic owners,some which can be cool at times, and others who are stuck in their bullshit world thinking having 160hp will beat anything in site with a big ass wing and a fart can.You could have a good chance of beating him,also since that guy seems like a retard,he most likely can't shift for ****.I say if you had a completed exhaust system and new header you would beat the queer for sure.


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