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Old 11-26-2011 | 09:15 AM
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Ok guys i finally dyno tuned my car and the numbers were 250 hp and 254 tq these numbers were of course corrected im in Colorado which is 5280ft above sea level. Well I have a question and I hope someone out there can help. our cars are said to handle 300 hp so with that said how much more can I push my car? Im I going of the corrected numbers or the other numbers cause it said I got 191hp and 195 tq. I hope you guys understand me im hell of tired but I just wanna know do I have more room as in 50hp or 110 hp to work with. Cause we are gonna put a meth kit and drop it to a 2.7 pulley so let me know what you guys think.

Oh and this was on a mustang dyno
Old 11-26-2011 | 09:28 AM
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sounds about right... you're trying to fill a 20% bigger motor with a baby blower and at huge altitude... If i had a 2.4 with a M62 i'd start with a 2.7 and probably end up with a 2.5 or something on it... you're just the victim of "big" cubes and huge altitude.. i know my SS/TC turns the boost up like 4.5lbs going from 790ft to 6300ft when i drive thru the mountains regularly...
Old 11-26-2011 | 09:35 AM
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See thats what I had in mind but I didnt know if my logic made sense haha. right now im at 7Psi with a 2.9 pulley and we are gonna experiment with the car we are gonna do 2.8 then 2.7 then just keep a close eye on it I just didnt understand.... if I had alot of room to work with.
Old 11-26-2011 | 02:18 PM
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I am in the same situation. I just dynoed my m62/2.4l and put down 257whp/233tq. I am not sure what I want to upgrade in this engine though. I am considering just pushing it to see what happens since there are numerous people that have gone well beyond 300whp. I am running a 3.1"(9psi) and am considering the same drop as you to about a 2.7". I am getting the ZZP 2.5" exhaust since I am still on the stock cat back tubing with a magnaflow muffler. I have a 2.9" pulley to throw on too. I am hoping the exhaust will relieve a bit of back pressure, lowering the boost for the pulley-down. When I get my exhaust I am heading back to the dyno. I am hoping the exhuast/pulley-down combo will yield another 30whp.

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Old 11-26-2011 | 03:30 PM
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hhrfreak are you auto? thatll kill some of your wheel hp. also what other exhaust mods do you have? LTH would work really well in your case i believe
Old 11-26-2011 | 06:47 PM
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I am 5spd. These are my mods:

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...4l-hhr-265971/

Why would a 2.9" and exhaust kill hp? I would think that would bring the hp up. Either the head or catback is causing a restriction for me. I am starting with the catback since it is quick. Porting the head in January.

What is LTH?

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Old 11-26-2011 | 08:24 PM
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haha noo an auto would kill hp, but its good you have the f23. a 2.9 coupled with exhaust will help a good amount. Ported head will help alot though, I would say you could even drop to a 2.7
Old 11-26-2011 | 09:40 PM
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haha noo an auto would kill hp, but its good you have the f23. a 2.9 coupled with exhaust will help a good amount. Ported head will help alot though, I would say you could even drop to a 2.7
Ha gotcha.

2.7" is going on after the head port...along with e85...
Old 11-27-2011 | 12:24 PM
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Mannys car is an auto and he put down good numbers. I think its all about the tune.
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idk 250 corrected seems pretty low for a 2.9 with full bolt-ons
Old 11-28-2011 | 12:16 PM
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well i am auto so im losing a lil there but some of the guys here in colorado have around the same mods and are LSJ and i rated a lil higher then them. so idk also my tq is a lil higher then the rest here
Old 11-28-2011 | 03:50 PM
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yeah the compression and extra displacement will help you there, but that tranny is definitely taking a good amount of power out. Think of getting a stall for it? that would help or any kind of build would free up some whp. but i definitely think E85 would give big gains if you have access to it. besides that if your looking for over 300 wheel i would say sell it all and go turbo.
Old 11-28-2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hhrfreek
I am in the same situation. I just dynoed my m62/2.4l and put down 257whp/233tq. I am not sure what I want to upgrade in this engine though. I am considering just pushing it to see what happens since there are numerous people that have gone well beyond 300whp. I am running a 3.1"(9psi) and am considering the same drop as you to about a 2.7". I am getting the ZZP 2.5" exhaust since I am still on the stock cat back tubing with a magnaflow muffler. I have a 2.9" pulley to throw on too. I am hoping the exhaust will relieve a bit of back pressure, lowering the boost for the pulley-down. When I get my exhaust I am heading back to the dyno. I am hoping the exhuast/pulley-down combo will yield another 30whp.
Go 3 inch since you are FI.
Old 11-28-2011 | 09:45 PM
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Go 3 inch since you are FI.
Eh. Too late I ordered the ZZP 2.5" catback. I think it'll be big enough...I know it'll be loud enough.
Old 11-28-2011 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by noorjariri
yeah the compression and extra displacement will help you there, but that tranny is definitely taking a good amount of power out. Think of getting a stall for it? that would help or any kind of build would free up some whp. but i definitely think E85 would give big gains if you have access to it. besides that if your looking for over 300 wheel i would say sell it all and go turbo.
I think 300+whp is doable with an m62. Actually I think the 2.4l will go well beyond that with an m62. I am going to see if I can hit it soon. I will see where I end up when I throw on my 2.9 and exhaust. Though, a turbo would make 300whp pretty quick work, not arguing that.
Old 11-28-2011 | 11:19 PM
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With e85 And a good tune you should be right at the 300+ mark I gained almost 70whp just from e85 And 1 psi more boost
Old 12-05-2011 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mmcgee123
With e85 And a good tune you should be right at the 300+ mark I gained almost 70whp just from e85 And 1 psi more boost
Are you on the stock fuel pump with the 80s and e85? Also any other fuel upgrades in your setup? I likely have to run 80s as well.
Old 12-06-2011 | 12:57 PM
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Stock fuel system just 80's
Old 12-08-2011 | 10:44 AM
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Stock fuel system just 80's
I am up and running on e85 now. Did you happen to test different AFRs on the dyno. I am running .70 right now which is supposed to be about "rich power". What are you running for an AFR and how much timing are you getting?
Old 12-08-2011 | 12:21 PM
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Didn't convert mine to lambda but I think it's high 12's low 13's I'm running 21.5* of timing might be able to get more just didn't have time to mess with the tune
Old 12-08-2011 | 12:23 PM
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When I get cams and have zzp redo my tune in the spring this thing is gonna be a monster haha 430whp ? Stock motor ......... Yup
Old 12-08-2011 | 01:36 PM
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Ok i am at 10.5 so ill lean it out and see how it reacts to timing
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howd it go ? my car loves timing so hopefully u can get urs all figure out
Old 12-09-2011 | 02:11 AM
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Pretty good I logged until the laptop was low. I ended up leaning it out from .70(10.5) to .78(11.5) and added timing. I will lean it out a bit more to about .82 and add more timing. I ended up with about 18* at 7k rpms. Its making a difference that I can feel. Was having crazy idle issues and got that sorted out for the most part.
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