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Old 08-19-2006 | 11:02 AM
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aren't these intakes for the 2.2 only? also did it come with instructions?
No you can use 2.2 intakes on 2.4s
Old 08-19-2006 | 11:53 AM
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does it come with instruction?
Old 08-19-2006 | 11:58 AM
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i wonder if that filter is replaceable when it gets worn out?
Old 08-19-2006 | 12:06 PM
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that is actually pretty good!
Old 08-19-2006 | 02:44 PM
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Looks good! Would it be possible to get a sound clip?
Old 08-19-2006 | 03:56 PM
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Yes , it comes with instructions (In English, French and spanish). It is very easy to install, just watch the clamp sizes as there are three differant sizes. According to this instructions, this kit will fit -
2005, 2006 and 2007 Cobalt 2.2 - 2.4
2007 Pontiac G5 2.2 - 2.4
2007 pontiac G4 and Pursuit
I have no way to get a sound clip.
It does eliminate the resonator on the throttle body, the big square one and is pretty loud compared to stock when your foot is in it.
I am not sure if the filter element can be cleaned or if it has to be replaced when dirty. I will be checking on this next week when I go back to work.
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Old 08-19-2006 | 08:50 PM
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so the instructions tell you have to remove and install the new air intake?
Old 08-20-2006 | 12:01 AM
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How much did you pay for it? It looks like if you get the ram air hood, it will drop the are right on the filter.
Old 08-20-2006 | 02:25 AM
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How much did you pay for it? It looks like if you get the ram air hood, it will drop the are right on the filter.
Ram air hood??? Have you seen pics, or have a part number?
Old 08-20-2006 | 02:29 AM
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Sorry, no pics. I paid $261.00 (15% over cost, thats what the dealer I work for charges employees) list is $325.00. I didn't think $261 was too out of line, but $325 is too much. I ordered about a week ago, so it just got released.
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$293.38 from GMPArtsDirect. They also beat CrateEngineDepot on the drilled/slotted rotors by quite a bit. Still, I need to find someone who works at a dealership to get a REAL price
Old 08-20-2006 | 02:52 AM
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That looks really good. But damn $293 for a short ram intake. But if you got the money good buy.
Old 08-20-2006 | 07:51 AM
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It isn't a short ram. The hood seals the top and it uses the intake tube in the fender just like any CAI. The only differance is the actual location of the filter.
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Old 08-20-2006 | 11:02 AM
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i dont really like it... looks like the airbox mod only more expensive. but if you like it then good call
Old 08-20-2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by denniss
It isn't a short ram. The hood seals the top and it uses the intake tube in the fender just like any CAI. The only differance is the actual location of the filter.
Dennis

the tube in the fender is very, very restrictive... if that's the case, i would take it out, guaranteed better results...
Old 08-20-2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
the tube in the fender is very, very restrictive... if that's the case, i would take it out, guaranteed better results...
How are you guarenteed better results.. the gm intake has to had some power, other wise if the tube in the fender was so restrictive they would of made a new one that goes with the intake.
Old 08-20-2006 | 03:29 PM
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very, very restrictive? It's 3.5" necked down to 2.5" at the airbox. How much air does a stock Cobalt need?
I know this is not the ultimate intake and it is WAY overpriced, but I think the HP gain is pretty close to any of the other intakes on the market. We are only talking like 3-6 HP anyway.
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Old 08-20-2006 | 03:49 PM
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will that void your warranty? since its a GM part?
Old 08-20-2006 | 04:13 PM
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will that void your warranty? since its a GM part?
It shouldn't.

Another question no one has asked - does it throw codes? If not, then it may be the best compromise on the market (and it may explain why GM took the approach they did with the stock air box bottom).

As for the hood seal, besides having it look cool when you open the hood, the real reason GM built systems like this in the past was to seal to the bottom of a real ram air opening. As mentioned before, I would suspect a ram air hood in the works or available that matches with this intake. Then the inlet in the fender becomes a moot point. Some of the vintage systems (like the cowl induction on the Chevelles) had a vacuum driven door to open for fresh air from the hood. The stock inlet from the fender would, therefore, be more restrictive but would be the "default" inlet when the hood opening was closed.

If GM doesn't come out with this, designing one wouldn't be difficult at all. I'm getting real interested in this intake from this standpoint - it would be a step toward real ram air intake.
Old 08-20-2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
the tube in the fender is very, very restrictive... if that's the case, i would take it out, guaranteed better results...
Agreed, this is my whole criticism of the design utilizing the stock airbox. Only a dyno will tell what kind of gains this intake will produce, but I'd imagine removing at least the lower portion of the stock airbox will provide a better gain.

Also, couldn't you just delete the stock airbox altogether and leave the GMPP piping and filter? It'd be just like the Injen SRI.

I'm seriously considering this intake because...

1. I doubt it throws any codes
2. It's a GMPP item therefore (though you might have to argue with your local chevy tech) warrantied
3. I believe that if it doesn't function so well as is, it could be modified by reducing or eliminating altogether use of the stock airbox to provide a better gain.
Old 08-20-2006 | 05:25 PM
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Hey Lewiss "the old guy", I'm almost 50. Can you top that?
So far I haven't thrown any codes. A vintage cowl induction would be very cool, but I would be surprised if GM will make one. Maybe aftermarket.
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Old 08-20-2006 | 11:28 PM
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Hey Lewiss "the old guy", I'm almost 50. Can you top that?
So far I haven't thrown any codes. A vintage cowl induction would be very cool, but I would be surprised if GM will make one. Maybe aftermarket.
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I'm 54 (high school class of '70). But our youngest daughter says I'm forever 19. Since she's 20 now, I'm not sure if that's a compliment or a comment on my maturity .

Does the seal really seal against the bottom of the stock hood? My mechanic son-in-law and I had the hood up on my 2.4 this afternoon looking at the under side of the hood above the airbox. From the pics, it almost looks as if the intent is to seal to the bottom of an air chamber from a hood intake. It reminds me of the twin intake boxes that sealed to the bottom of the hood on the 1970 Buick GS455.

Here's a pic of the air cleaner:

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/...000005&photo=7

And the bottom of the hood it breathes through (note how the hood seals on the twin intake mate up to the hood openings:

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/...00005&photo=14

And the outside of the hood (different car):

http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/phot...0,0/photo.aspx

Just for rough ideas, one of this style hood scoop over the airbox seal would sure cure the restricted breathing through the fender, or a shallow but wide duct back to a hood scoop in the center, like the carbon fiber hood advertised on the board....
Old 08-21-2006 | 06:59 AM
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It touches the hood mat, but I don't think it would touch the hood if you removed the mat. I would think it would be easy to make it seal on an aftermarket hood though.



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Old 08-21-2006 | 08:01 AM
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That is nice looking but even my price as a parts department employee is still $250.25!
True thats better then the $325.00 it lists for but its expensive! Got to think on this one.
Old 08-21-2006 | 10:51 AM
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It touches the hood mat, but I don't think it would touch the hood if you removed the mat. I would think it would be easy to make it seal on an aftermarket hood though. Dennis
Thanks! That pic is exactly what I needed! Now I know I will order one.

One idea I had this AM commuting to work is to use the gasket to mark the hood mat (vasoline works well ) and cut the mat just outside the gasket. Next step is to build a short - one inch or so - lip to attach to the hood to stick down to engage the gasket firmly. Thin aluminum c-channel extrusion might work, formed in the shape of the gasket/air box top and bonded to the hood. Finally, cut through the hood in the center of that, and place a hood scoop over the hole (with appropriate screen to keep from sucking in birds and small children ). I have some ideas for an aftermarket scoop that should match the styling of the hood (mostly the tapered ridge that sits almost over the airbox).

Don't know if that explaination makes sense, but it's clear in my head!

Oh, and the fact that the gasket doesn't actually seal well against the hood mat is probably why you're getting so much intake honk in the cabin. I don't know if having it seal well and breathing through the hood would help that or not.

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Old 08-21-2006 | 11:46 AM
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damn i think i really want one of these. id just like to know if it is worth it. id like to go for the official GM product.


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