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Old 08-28-2006 | 10:43 AM
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anymore new videos?
Old 08-28-2006 | 12:00 PM
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yeah we need a video without music or so many effects... we just need raw powa!
Old 08-28-2006 | 12:10 PM
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i should have roughly around 2900 dollars by christmas... hopefully by spring ill have it ready!
Old 08-28-2006 | 01:48 PM
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I'll take some vids for you guys. LOL. Not a Cobalt but it is RAW, HRC POWA! 300+WHP worht of it too.
Old 08-29-2006 | 11:06 AM
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Old 08-29-2006 | 12:25 PM
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And I am really looking forward to finally getting it. Turbonetics' engineer thinks that we should go larger than the t3-t4 hybrid and the decision on which one should be made next week.
Victory_red_SS: ditch your SC, twincharging is just a fad that will pass. do something simular to the ecotecrage guys: http://tunerzine.com/newsitem.php?id=8
Old 08-29-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Victory_red_SS: ditch your SC, twincharging is just a fad that will pass. do something simular to the ecotecrage guys: http://tunerzine.com/newsitem.php?id=8
I am not doing this because it's a fad. I think it actually has to be on more than a couple of show cars to call it a fad. The way my engine is built it will be a minor thing to go straight turbo "if" I am not satisfied with my results.
As for fad, why would both Hahn and Turbonetics be interested in seeing this done if this is not a viable option? The straight turbo is for outrageous power, race car power and if I can have 555 - 600whp with being twincharged in my daily driver, I will be content.
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:02 PM
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I am not doing this because it's a fad. I think it actually has to be on more than a couple of show cars to call it a fad. The way my engine is built it will be a minor thing to go straight turbo "if" I am not satisfied with my results.
As for fad, why would both Hahn and Turbonetics be interested in seeing this done if this is not a viable option? The straight turbo is for outrageous power, race car power and if I can have 555 - 600whp with being twincharged in my daily driver, I will be content.
I don't think your going to have ANYWHERE near 500HP at the crank let alone 500WHP. Your probably going to be looking at something like 400-450WHP tops which is what I'll have with just a 20G turbo and a mildly built motor. The s/c that GM puts on these cars is so restrictive to the flow that you won't gain what they gain on some other cars with bigger blowers. Go look on JBO, there's a guy with a twincharged 2.4L and his numbers are WEAK compared to cars with just a turbo at the same PSI levels.

Just an outside point of view. Although I do like the idea and have personally both drool and messed myself, at the same time too, when looking at HRC's twincharge setup. Good luck to you but I don't think you'll see the numbers your thinking you will.
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:04 PM
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a stg1 would be pointless, especially if it comes out AFTER the stg2, come on, you know that once that stg1 is installed, you'll want even more and it'll cost you more to get the stg2 later than it would if you got it right away...

there is no date set yet so do like what most people talking in this thread are doing and save up. Since the begining of this thread i've put 100$ aside everyweek and when it comes out I'll probably have enough to buy it, or at least I will next spring when the car comes out of storage.
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:06 PM
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if i break 300 hp, i'll be ecstatic
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:13 PM
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I don't think your going to have ANYWHERE near 500HP at the crank let alone 500WHP. Your probably going to be looking at something like 400-450WHP tops which is what I'll have with just a 20G turbo and a mildly built motor. The s/c that GM puts on these cars is so restrictive to the flow that you won't gain what they gain on some other cars with bigger blowers. Go look on JBO, there's a guy with a twincharged 2.4L and his numbers are WEAK compared to cars with just a turbo at the same PSI levels.

Just an outside point of view. Although I do like the idea and have personally both drool and messed myself, at the same time too, when looking at HRC's twincharge setup. Good luck to you but I don't think you'll see the numbers your thinking you will.
I have been patient waiting for the engine so I can wait a bit longer to see how this all works out.
My engine is very built and everyone concerned in this project knows the numbers we are going for. They are confident so I will play this out. This is a learning process for all and we either suceed or try something else. There is no failing and perhaps this will help others because we will find the limits of twincharging.
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:15 PM
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Well I'll give you the fact that your attitude is dead on what it needs to be for this. Whether you make 300WHP or 300BHP your doing something others won't, can't, or are afraid to do; you've got my respect for that.
Old 08-29-2006 | 01:17 PM
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i give props to anyone who modifies their car
Old 08-30-2006 | 01:06 AM
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btw... for the video? can we get some cobalt vs srt4 ax-she-on? (action)
Old 08-31-2006 | 12:32 PM
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Old 08-31-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Why can't we just get an in car shot of the turbo accelrating?

No throat killing music (or singing) just plain in car sounds and noises....Bill c'mon help us out this is your audience and buyers here waiting. Give us something.
Old 08-31-2006 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GTP
Why can't we just get an in car shot of the turbo accelrating?

No throat killing music (or singing) just plain in car sounds and noises....Bill c'mon help us out this is your audience and buyers here waiting. Give us something.
Or make us real happy and show it racing an 06 si
Old 08-31-2006 | 06:32 PM
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im definitely up for a group buy.....i got the 5 speed 2.4 and cant wait for the release of the turbo.....thanks for all the info!!!
Old 08-31-2006 | 09:36 PM
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Or make us real happy and show it racing an 06 si
dude that would't even be a race that would be a killling, an si death The SI IS OBSELETE
Old 08-31-2006 | 09:50 PM
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Hey Bill...i looked into a turbo more in-depth today and i have a few new questions......


1. What type of warranties do you offer on the turbo.....i have seen a few instances where the turbo impellers have been grinded up real bad due to foreign objects from in/outside the engine.....and also have you had any instances where the internals of the turbo have worn out from normal wear/tear plus have you ever had any problems with leaks and what not....(considering it was installed properly)?

2. Anyone could answer this i guess but how often does the oil need to be changed with your system and also after every change is it true that we have to disable the ignition system and crank her for a few secs to pull new oil up into the turbo to keep it from burning up at regular startup...?

***note to everyone although some of you may want a stage 1 witha primary diff. of no intercooler....i would highly suggest that you get the intercooler anyways becuase intercoolers cool turbo air by up to a 100 degrees....which calculates to an overall increase of 10-20hp due to cooler air......***
Old 08-31-2006 | 10:01 PM
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why can i not find this video?
link please & thank you
Old 08-31-2006 | 10:51 PM
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it doesnt seem like bill is interested in this thread anymore...
Old 08-31-2006 | 11:08 PM
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Well considering it's after business hours and Bill is a busy man when at work and when he's not, he may not answer right away. Plus the fact that this topic is way far off topic at some points it gets annoying. I'm sure he'll post when he can.
Old 09-01-2006 | 10:52 AM
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thats what i mean, maybe we should let this thread die until bill has more updates since its so off topic
Old 09-01-2006 | 04:42 PM
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Yeah, really. Its so long that finding anything is next to impossible. You'd have a better chance of seeing a one legged cat bury a turd in a frozen pond than find a specific post in here.


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