Buy a supercharged mustang v8

 

this is for that laser blue ss. hey i am sorry to say but i destroyed a v6 mustang at maple grove raceway in reading, pa. i had nothing done to my car except for a intake.

Current Mods: injen CAI, Magnaflow catback exhaust, Axis Krux rims with nankang tires

Wishable Mods:Stage 6 kit through cobalt addiction and carbon fiber hood.

 

i believe you would need atleast full cat exhuast header downpipe cai spark plugs or if you want to just beat him good buy a turbo kit. but youd have to spend lots of money to beat him more than 1k atleast.

ryan.

 

wow someone cant take sarcasm

hahahahaha some of you guys crack me up with your knowledge the only thing you can do is supercharge or turbo your **** , after that your gonna need internals clutch axels header downpipe exhaust cai hp tuners wideband and a scanguage plus the 3,000 turbo so your looking at a good 6-7 thousand dollars to run MAYBE a high 11 low 12

 

Alright man I am a newb here also but I have dealt with Mustangs my whole life. A stock 6 cylinder is pumping 300 hp from the factory. Depending now if he has a roots blower such as Kenne Bell he could be making close to 500 hp and this type of blower is better from a dig. Now if it is a centrifical blower like Vortech, Paxton they wont be as powerful and making maybe 425 or so and theses blowers are better from a roll. Sorry man you better dump some serious money in your car to beat your friend. CAI, Exhaust, chip, and other little things just wont cut it!

 

yup ^^^ i agree with 2.4. i don't think alot of you guys realize that a 5-speed 05-07 v6 mustang is a bit faster than a 2.4 stock for stock...with bolt ons they can run mid 14's, and with all the bolt ons some run low 14's......blown, it is a different story, and with 9 psi on a procharger, people have put down 360whp on a dynojet....you are going to need A LOT to keep up with this guy. You may need to get stronger internals along with the forced induction which is already needed. Don't spend money just to be the fastest car in your group of friends, just get what will give you the most fun man, spending 6 grand to be faster than your friends car is just kinda stupid. happy modding man.

you have dealt with mustangs your whole life? centrifugal blowers will make more peak power at the same boost in most applications and will usually put down better track times than a roots/twin screw (kenne bell uses twin screw, not roots, you are thinking of eaton). the most powerful of the v6's yet is the new 4.0 which makes 210hp and 240 ft lbs stock. with the blower setup he has he is probably making close to 380-400chp, 330+ at the wheels. Procharger has better flow characteristics from their head units than vortech/paxton, so this guy will see some damn good numbers. i do agree however that it is going to take ALOT to beat him like i said in my last post.

 

With all due respect.......

A stock 05 - 07 v6 puts 210 to the crank not 300.... (GT 4.6 does 300 to the crank)

A roots blower does not have an effective cooling mechanism such as an aftercooler or an intercooler. Centrifugal blower (procharger, Vortech...etc) can use an intercooler colder boost more compression in the air more HP.

The only factory close to 500 HP at the crank is the gt-5000 (shelby cobra, with a paxton blower and intercooled).

No S197 is making more than 400 RWHP without seriouos internal work, the piston design favors enviromental efficiency and not power as a forged (cobra) type piston.

Like I said before I now realize that I can not beat my friend unless I dump a large sum of money.....

Thanks

 

a roots blower can have an intercooler setup....in fact the ss/sc has a roots with an intercooler.

the gt500 puts well over 400 to the wheels, and there are many, many s197's putting down way over 400rwhp on stock internals...in fact there have been multiple 4.0's doing that. pretty much all of the forced induction 4.6 s197's put down more than 400rwhp. we do have hypereuCRAPtic pistons, but with forged rods and stock we are very far from the limit of our internals.

 

Have you seen a s197 mustang with an aftermarket roots blower and an intercooler..........? Unless you fab something there isn't any room for one.......

the over 400rwhp I was talking about was in reference to a 4.0..... Yeah plenty blown 4.6 at close to 500.... the only "factory stock" one is the shelby...... which Fords warrants as stock....

It is obvious now that a mustang takes to Mods (on a stock block) very nicely....still there is no-one with 500rwhp on a six with a stock block.....not even Powerhouse's...11 second six.

 

you said no s197's with 400rwhp on stock internals...there are a few 6's (you said 400, not 500) and there are MANY 8's, plus the gt500 is still an s197 also... there is an intercooled magnuson charger kit for the gt which is roots style. im not gonna argue with you here as these are facts, i am just informing you.

read your post again, you said s197...that refers to the entire mustang lineup that is available right now.

 

what did he run at the track?? you might consider supercharging your car. i'll bet the eaton m 60 would do the 2.4 justice. or you might try the m-90 off of a thunderbird supercoupe. alot of supporting mods will need to be done though.
its hard to say what you need, cause i dont know how fast his car is

 

My bad.... I meant v6 over 500.... actually I can't think of any s197 v6 with more than 400rwhp on a stock internals.....

Anyways, aside from my confussion I think we both agree as to point.

Thanks

 

with all due respect.. the ss s/c is a roots setup with an intercooler.
you dont always need one however, sometimes, you can use a blower with a higher cfm (cubic feet per minute) yeild at a lower rpm.. creating less heat, and therefore not requireing an intercooler. i'm no car guru by any means, so someone with more knowledge on this issue please explain it to him.

if i were you, i would think about either a small shot of nitrous and all the bolt ons available, or the crate rpo-lsj. the lsj would essentially make your car the ss s/c, then sell your 2.4 block to someone on here and recoup some of your money

you still might not beat your buddy with all the bolt ons, but you will beat all the rice.. thats gotta count for something.

 

that powerhouse 4.0 is making close to 500 on stock internals. that thing is still running stock internals/ tranny. there is also a priveately owned 4.0 on the 4.0collective forums. it is a guy named flapjack that made 364rwhp on 12 psi on the procharger kit. he is now running 14 psi i beleive, with ported and polished heads/cams. he is undoubtedly well over 400rwhp. we have pretty much the same views i am just trying to keep all the info correct.

 

Double drool... those are amazing! Hayabusa beaters! I think making 3000lbs of steel move faster than the fastest production crotch rocket out there is purely amazing and awesome!

 

i ran one at the race track.. i ran a 14.7 - he ran a 13.7 (stock)
its obvious that this guy had driver mod, and i dont, but still. he was still walking away the whole time. i think you need stage 2 to take one down even from a roll. u sure he wasn't just doing some spirited driving? i only ask this because i just keep up with cars that are slower than me but want to race, i usually dont race them
p.s. his trap speed was 102.76; mine was 97.18
i think this means that they are all around faster, dosent it?

what do you think USMCFieldPIMP?

 

now that is drool...i beleive that is the owner of titan motorsports that says it is the fastest street car he has ever been in by far.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...8200006f07.htm

just wow LOL.

 

i didnt say anything about h.p #'s though. you introduced yourself as a noob, so i was just telling you about an episode of 2 guys garage. on their muscle car they did one with no inter/aftercooler

 

Hey chevysalesman, I know the ss s/c...The roots I was refering to is in the new mustangs, there is a good diference in designing the engine bay when you know there is gona be a roots blower, for a mustang there isn't a lot of room between the intake mainfold top (or the blower top) an the hood, or to the sides.... so some fab is need it, or a cawl type hood to allow for pipping. (now I don't know about this new model W/ I/C that was mentioned earlier).

Also, the heat created by boost happens during the compression of the air, yielding at lower rpms can cause two things.... one you are on boost longer since you start sooner (no heat savings there), or you have to let go the boost at the higher rpm range..(loose power at the top...), an I/C unit will always deliver higher numbers and be gentler on the engine.

I guess what I was trying to tell you is that your hp numbers where off, and that a roots type blower does not necessarilly yield more HP than a centrifugal one.....

I apologize for the confussion.

Wow....

That's $130'ish K....

 

i think if you flatten his tires before yall race you might beat him. lol

 

thats true
or sugar in the gas tank

 

I do believe some older Saab's had V4's.

 

lol the two stroke saabs?