2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

How much horsepower do i have?

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Old 01-30-2008 | 11:54 PM
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tuning the car up good..can def free up some good hp...especially with bolt ons
Old 01-31-2008 | 12:41 AM
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o wait, you have an automatic? i'm retracting my earlier guess. i'm going to say 160 max. probably less though, don't be surprised if you're in the 150's. you can't just add up the claims of what each mod will supposedly do. that's not how it works.

not trying to be a dick, or rain on your parade, just trying to be realistic. if you're expecting 200whp, and see 154, that's kinda dissapionting.
Old 01-31-2008 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
o wait, you have an automatic? i'm retracting my earlier guess. i'm going to say 160 max. probably less though, don't be surprised if you're in the 150's. you can't just add up the claims of what each mod will supposedly do. that's not how it works.

not trying to be a dick, or rain on your parade, just trying to be realistic. if you're expecting 200whp, and see 154, that's kinda dissapionting.
thats real man, thanks for the honesty
Old 01-31-2008 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
any data to back that one up?


I/H/E + tune giving 50whp? i dunno man. thats very hopeful.

id say 160-165.

but its not going to mean much if you didnt dyno stock.
Go check out the dyno thread. That Red Ion 2.4 is making 186 with the EXACT same setup minus a TB. The Blue G5 is making 181 on a CONSERVATIVE tune with I/H/E. We have a guy over on g5club.net with I/H/E inj making 186... I would link but honestly I don't care enough. 180's is pretty standard on a 2.4 with I/H/E and a tune.

Edit: Just saw he's an auto so this doesn't apply. Either way, it's no fantastic 50hp gain man.
Old 01-31-2008 | 12:18 PM
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do thise chips really work?
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do thise chips really work?
I had a local shop computer tune my car and dyno it.

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Old 01-31-2008 | 12:20 PM
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isnt the 2.4 rated at like 170base!?! i think with all that mod it should it 180whp
Old 01-31-2008 | 12:23 PM
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isnt the 2.4 rated at like 170base!?! i think with all that mod it should it 180whp
152 Wheel HP stock. 173 SAE. there's a difference. Not sure what SAE is but whatever.....
Old 01-31-2008 | 01:07 PM
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our cars put down 173ish at the engine roughly a 20% power loss on a stock tune auto tranny and a 15 % power loss on a manual tranny. so a stock 2.4 auto will register +- 140 hp and a stock 2.4 with a manual will show +- 150 wp When done on a car dino. Autos only get 95% of the hp gain a manual would get. However the auto tranny that is in the 2.4 is stronger than the manual in the 2.4 so you could support more hp w/o having to do tranny work. So im guessing that your looking at a realistic mid 160's to low 170's in hp too the wheels. Im almost certian there is a dyno sheet with I/H/E on an auto 2.4 showing like 170 ish hp. ill look to see if i can find it and link it.
Old 01-31-2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil C
our cars put down 173ish at the engine roughly a 20% power loss on a stock tune auto tranny and a 15 % power loss on a manual tranny. so a stock 2.4 auto will register +- 140 hp and a stock 2.4 with a manual will show +- 150 wp When done on a car dino. Autos only get 95% of the hp gain a manual would get. However the auto tranny that is in the 2.4 is stronger than the manual in the 2.4 so you could support more hp w/o having to do tranny work. So im guessing that your looking at a realistic mid 160's to low 170's in hp too the wheels. Im almost certian there is a dyno sheet with I/H/E on an auto 2.4 showing like 170 ish hp. ill look to see if i can find it and link it.
Actually the Getrag transmission in the manual is capable of supporting higher power levels than the automatic.
Old 01-31-2008 | 09:56 PM
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so i would have to guestimate around a gajillion hp...give or take a few
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:11 AM
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Old 02-01-2008 | 01:15 AM
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Im having my car dyno tuned w/ HP Tuners up at Tune Time Performance next month when I get my tax return back. I currently have an AEM CAI, CA header, XTC 2.5" de-cat downpipe, and an ARK N2 cat-back, and with the 32lb/hr injectors helping lower my IDC rate, plus expert tuning on the dyno through Tune Time Performance, i'd love to see 180whp-190whp, but who knows. I'll let ya know when I get the #'s in about a month.
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteSSBalt
Im having my car dyno tuned w/ HP Tuners up at Tune Time Performance next month when I get my tax return back. I currently have an AEM CAI, CA header, XTC 2.5" de-cat downpipe, and an ARK N2 cat-back, and with the 32lb/hr injectors helping lower my IDC rate, plus expert tuning on the dyno through Tune Time Performance, i'd love to see 180whp-190whp, but who knows. I'll let ya know when I get the #'s in about a month.
You definately won't get 190. Cross your fingers for 180's and hope your torque comes out square. Ive got the 2.4L K&N SRI, 1.75 ZZP header, 2.5 ZZP DP, 2.5" magnaflow catback and injectors will be in before I head over to the dyno. If I hit 185 I'll be VERY VERY happy. This is also with someone very experienced with HP Tuners.
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BigEMU1
You definately won't get 190. Cross your fingers for 180's and hope your torque comes out square. Ive got the 2.4L K&N SRI, 1.75 ZZP header, 2.5 ZZP DP, 2.5" magnaflow catback and injectors will be in before I head over to the dyno. If I hit 185 I'll be VERY VERY happy. This is also with someone very experienced with HP Tuners.
Yeah, REDFOCZ has a similar setup to me, and the only other thing he has on my is a ported TB, and he made 186whp self tuning it w/ HP Tuners. (Not saying he's a bad tuner, just stating the facts). He has a cat, and im catless, which is a minimal difference, but it kinda equals out the difference between my stock to his porter TB. So im guessing it'll be about 180whp, but i'd love to see 185whp.
Old 02-01-2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BigEMU1
guys with your exact mods put down 180'shp/170's tq all day long.
My Guess

Originally Posted by an0malous
any data to back that one up?


I/H/E + tune giving 50whp? i dunno man. thats very hopeful.

id say 160-165.

but its not going to mean much if you didnt dyno stock.
Yes, I have a stock dyno from here to if you have any doubts
Old 02-01-2008 | 11:31 AM
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So stock you dyno'd 186hp/177ft.lbs???

Um bullshit.
Old 02-01-2008 | 12:23 PM
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So stock you dyno'd 186hp/177ft.lbs???

Um bullshit.
Reading over you, I have full bolt on's and a tune and put out the 186/177
I went to the same dyno when I first but the car for my baseline numbers. I was saying I have a stock sheet if he doubts me. Now you can insert your foot in your month and go cry in your corner and shut the **** up.
Old 02-01-2008 | 12:38 PM
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[quote=REDFOCZ]Reading over you, I have full bolt on's and a tune and put out the 186/177
I went to the same dyno when I first but the car for my baseline numbers. I was saying I have a stock sheet if he doubts me. Now you can insert your foot in your month and go cry in your corner and shut the **** up. [/QUOTE
Originally Posted by REDFOCZ
My Guess



Yes, I have a stock dyno from here to if you have any doubts
I think you sir are the one that needs to drink a large cup of SHUT THE **** UP!
Old 02-01-2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by REDFOCZ
Reading over you, I have full bolt on's and a tune and put out the 186/177
I went to the same dyno when I first but the car for my baseline numbers. I was saying I have a stock sheet if he doubts me. Now you can insert your foot in your month and go cry in your corner and shut the **** up.
I'm curious how valid that mustang dyno is anyways. Does he have correction factors active? Mustang dyno's typically run 13.5% lower than standard dynojets. And I'm not about to believe that you put down over 210whp w/ a 2.4 N/A w/o serious modifications...
Old 02-01-2008 | 12:44 PM
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i have a stock one meaning more then one again reading over you
Old 02-01-2008 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by REDFOCZ
My Guess



Yes, I have a stock dyno from here; too, if you have any doubts

Here's w/ my current mods.
Fixed. A little thought could have avoided the last few posts...
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:03 PM
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I was getting ready to post up my dyno sheet that I have of my 2.4 with a CAI and a cat-back that says 167.

Low 180s just like everyone else with the same bolt ons...can't wait to get tuned and dyno again
Old 02-01-2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
Fixed. A little thought could have avoided the last few posts...
Yeah, I hate when illiterate people think they "owned" people.
Old 02-01-2008 | 04:34 PM
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i hate people who don't read because it was already stated what mods i have
Old 02-01-2008 | 06:27 PM
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thats why im going turbo next yr..u see the gains they get


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