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Old 11-09-2007 | 01:54 AM
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Ingalls.

Im highly considering this. sounds like a cheap and easy mod. I have a few questions though before ordering (dont bother vendors...i buy all my parts through my dealer as a middleman, 17 year olds dont have credit cards)

1. Does this work with a stock air box? if not, is there any way to mod with the stock air box (its nearly winter so i would be foolish to install CAI at this moment)

2. Is it worth my money?

3. Does it actually improve acceleration as some have said? how so? does it make burnouts impossible?

4. Any supporting mods needed/suggested?

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Old 11-09-2007 | 01:55 AM
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Old 11-09-2007 | 01:59 AM
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i have tried but all the answers are so vague and skewed about. i just want solid answers to the questions im asking. no need to flame.
Old 11-09-2007 | 11:19 AM
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1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too
Old 11-09-2007 | 12:41 PM
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1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too
thank you. this aswell as the new K&N system for the 2.4s will be ordered this month, unfortunately they wont go on til spring.
Old 11-09-2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thekingsSS
1. No, factory airbox is in the way
2. Yes, definitely. If you want a way to help with wheel hop and dont want to use bushings, this is a great piece
3. Cant tell if it improves acceleration, but it definitely helps to get more power to the wheels during acceleration. I feel that on the 2.4s if you want the best improvement in acceleration you would need new tranny mounts, cause our tranny moves a lot during hard shifts (manual). You can still burnout
4. Lower it. Lowering this car is amazing, looks and feels so much better. Better tires will help too
Since when can we do a burn out?
Old 11-09-2007 | 01:57 PM
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Since when can we do a burn out?
do you have a 2.4? mine can smoke the tires no problem. even with bfg winter tires on.
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:02 PM
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I can burn mine through second if I want....
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:03 PM
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i can burn mine through 5th... lol
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:03 PM
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I would it be bad to get a CAI in the winter??? Thats just crazy! Put that **** on now, and feel the HP/MPG go up.
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bgbearcatfan
i can burn mine through 5th... lol
then it's time for new tires
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:06 PM
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lol exactly

actually its because i have sooo much power! all this horsepower and torque omg!

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Old 11-09-2007 | 02:32 PM
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Ingalls will fit on the 2.4L IF you have an aftermarket intake like Injen.

You SHOULD get the Turbo Tech Racing or Prothane transmission inserts also and install at the same time.

Also you might want to consider the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount, instead of the Ingalls. They can be found at www.TurboTechRacing.com
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:41 PM
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so basically on a 2.4 if you want to keep the stock air box you're screwed when it comes to limiting wheel hop?
Old 11-09-2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis
so basically on a 2.4 if you want to keep the stock air box you're screwed when it comes to limiting wheel hop?
Not necessarily, you can get engine and tranny mounts. They are supposed to help

Originally Posted by Evil C
Since when can we do a burn out?
Seriously? Burnouts are pretty easy to do in this car

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Old 11-09-2007 | 03:05 PM
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well the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount requires a special intake too

as for tranny mounts, I'm not sure I want to have to install that
Old 11-09-2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis
well the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount requires a special intake too

as for tranny mounts, I'm not sure I want to have to install that
Word, I didnt know that the upper engine mount required a new intake. And I feel you on the tranny mounts...... Guess my advice wasnt necessary
Old 11-09-2007 | 03:13 PM
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engine and tranny mounts seem to work better at dealing with wheelhop than the ingalls td. i have the ingalls and i like it, works pretty well for me so i'm not that interested at the moment in mounts. i've heard the vibrations are worse with mounts vs the ingalls td.

while i havn't noticed better acceleration with my td, i've noticed my wheels will spin more than before, before i'd just get bad wheel hop. also shifts feel a lot smoother than before, which is a plus too. i paid $132 (including $2 shipping) in a group buy and i feel it was money well spent.
Old 11-09-2007 | 03:14 PM
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if you wanna do a burnout, put in neautral, rev up to like 5k then slam it into drive :-)
Old 11-09-2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bgbearcatfan
if you wanna blow your tranny, put in neautral, rev up to like 5k then slam it into drive :-)
fixed..
Old 11-09-2007 | 03:17 PM
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lol yah basically.. seriously don't do that haha
Old 11-10-2007 | 02:41 PM
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It's weird. Ever since I upgraded to better tires and the ZZP midlength header/dp 2.5" I haven't got wheel hop in a long time. As for modding the stock intake, can you just take it out and add some piping from where it would normally stop and throw on a filter and aim it to the bottom of the engine compartment like a CAI?
Old 11-10-2007 | 02:54 PM
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i can burn out with my auto. put in L and brake torque it and bam you left a skid mark.
Old 11-10-2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
Ingalls will fit on the 2.4L IF you have an aftermarket intake like Injen.

You SHOULD get the Turbo Tech Racing or Prothane transmission inserts also and install at the same time.

Also you might want to consider the Turbo Tech Racing Solid upper engine mount, instead of the Ingalls. They can be found at www.TurboTechRacing.com
The mounts are my next mod....
Old 11-10-2007 | 09:26 PM
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I got a good pic of the Ingalls installed on my 2.4 with an AEM CAI if anyone is interested.


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