well could have had the car tommorro,but headbolts are required,so Ill pick em up tomorro and Ill have the car finally on Thursday

 

I think Mike has lost his ha ha, over this endeavor.

 

2 thousand later! you're right I lost my ha ha.

 

Is your buddy still welcome at your house?

 

accidents do happen,cant be mad about it,I have been more upset with the long wait it caused,cant wait to go play in a few days though

 

Looks like your getting your ha ha back.

 

that and one heck of a valvetrain too!

 

good to hear mike. You got a list of everything you had done in the past month or so?

 

Its a list I want to forget

 

haha

 

I think that in a few days a new thread should be started for these camshafts, cause this thread has been destroyed

 

A few days? It better be tommorow

 

my headbolts will be in at 10.00am tomorro, Ill take it to the shop and they said after that is only the timing,so Friday morning Im gonna go have lottsa lottsa fun!

 

Good news man, that thing's gonna haul. You still gonna get it tuned or have all the surprises emptied the mod money?

 

Im hoping that I dont have to have this tuned in(which would be good news for us 2.4 guys) but I will dyno the gains though,I will tune the car in once the header/dp is on,which I could have easily done already if it was not for the mess

 

I'm thinking of getting ride of my c/a header so hit me up when you looking for one

 

so what happened again?

 

A friend demolished my valvetrain, sending all this into a downward tailspin

 

First post on 10-23 "Mike is in the middle of installing the camshafts!" .....its now 12-06.......day 44......

 

lol!

i feel for all you guys waiting for the results...on oone of the mustang forums the first guy to install heads has dynoed, but can't post the dynoes, track times, or anything until the company that built them approves...but of course he gave us a little vid from inside the car just to tease us...its been like 3 weeks waiting and he already has the dyno IN HAND. GAH!

 

im still skeptical about the fact you are not going to tune the car with them. If they work out without tuning that is awesome...if not... new valvetrain or worse...

 

The tune doesn't effect "hard parts." It only re-programs the computer (fuel injection amount and timing, ignition timing, etc.). So lack of a tune will not hurt the "valvetrain or worse."

The new cams should improve air flow, and as long as the flow isn't more than the MAF limits, the stock computer (stock "tune") should be able to compensate. Where you get into issues is if the injectors are too small, and the computer is running them at 100 percent duty cycle to try to get enough fuel into the cylinders to go with the added air flow (remember, the cams can only increase or decrease air flow into the cylinders). This is the scenario when tuning Gen I and Gen II Neons. Different engine designs tend to have different issues.

One aspect of the 2.4, however, is the variable valve timing. As long as the cams allow the valves to physically clear the top of the pistons at both timing positions, the only thing a tune can do is move the RPM where the cams are advanced/retarded.

None of this is to say that a tune wouldn't be benificial, only that the only real issue not having one can cause is a lean or rich condition. And the worst case scenario of that is a hole in a piston (if lean) or so much fuel it actually washes down the cylinder wall and pollutes the oil and causes wear. But neither issue is instantaneous, and drivability usually make it clear if either is happening.

-J-

 

Wow, good one lewiss my man

 

Indeed!

 

Mike... today is friday. When I get back from work tonite, i expect to see some results. But hey then again we have been watching this thread for who knows how long? Im just hopeing its worth the wait. For your sake and ours