Making my 2.4L ss better
#2
Tranny swap is expensive and requires a lot of time and parts. Turbo and S/C are viable options, use the search function.
Don't be surprised when people tell you it is easier just to trade it in, because it kinda is...
Don't be surprised when people tell you it is easier just to trade it in, because it kinda is...
#4
wow.. it's not easier to trade it in...
the hit you take on buying a new car is ridiculous
you could easily supercharge or turbo your car for any wear between 2-5k depending on if you buy new or used parts and the quality you go with and how "all out you go"
the tranny swap would probably be a PITA.. and IDK of anyone thats done it as of yet.. so i wouldn't even konw where to point you for help..
but as far as boosting the car you can do that for much less then buying a whole new car ...
hell my build told including boost and all my bolt ons, rims, suspension, and everything i've going through has racked up to like 5-6K so it's not THAT expensive. but if you're asking these questions then you need to do alot of research.
I'd recommend getting to know your car very well before you jump into any big projects because you don't want something to brake and be like ZOMG OH NOES at least if you know whats up you can get things taken care of
there are a bunch of boosted 2.4's on here i don't think any one of them has spent over 5k on boost alone..
also if you go boost .. your auto will be better after a tranny tune.. it can handle more then the stock clutch can and it'll be more consistent.. now IMO it wont be as much fun as pounding through the gears, but i wouldn't look to a tranny swap just for that reason
the hit you take on buying a new car is ridiculous
you could easily supercharge or turbo your car for any wear between 2-5k depending on if you buy new or used parts and the quality you go with and how "all out you go"
the tranny swap would probably be a PITA.. and IDK of anyone thats done it as of yet.. so i wouldn't even konw where to point you for help..
but as far as boosting the car you can do that for much less then buying a whole new car ...
hell my build told including boost and all my bolt ons, rims, suspension, and everything i've going through has racked up to like 5-6K so it's not THAT expensive. but if you're asking these questions then you need to do alot of research.
I'd recommend getting to know your car very well before you jump into any big projects because you don't want something to brake and be like ZOMG OH NOES at least if you know whats up you can get things taken care of
there are a bunch of boosted 2.4's on here i don't think any one of them has spent over 5k on boost alone..
also if you go boost .. your auto will be better after a tranny tune.. it can handle more then the stock clutch can and it'll be more consistent.. now IMO it wont be as much fun as pounding through the gears, but i wouldn't look to a tranny swap just for that reason
#5
not exactly sure why you would want to go from auto to manual... its more expensive and slower, not exactly sure about cobalts but for almost all drag racing a manual will lose to a stalled auto given equivalent whp
#6
What you'll find with Cobalts is that the auto tranny can hold more power than the manual... but under most circumstances the manual will be quicker with equal whp with the exception of some high power turbo setups, I'd imagine.
#7
Last time I checked easier is how "difficult" something is, so it would be more expensive to trade in yes, but much easier. And used TC's can be had for less than $18k.
What you'll find with Cobalts is that the auto tranny can hold more power than the manual... but under most circumstances the manual will be quicker with equal whp with the exception of some high power turbo setups, I'd imagine.
What you'll find with Cobalts is that the auto tranny can hold more power than the manual... but under most circumstances the manual will be quicker with equal whp with the exception of some high power turbo setups, I'd imagine.
ok maybe you don't take losing money into the ease/ difficulty of doing something but i do..it's not easy for me to trade in a car for 10 K at most and spend 18K on another used car.. when you could buy a turbo kit from say zzp and get it installed for much cheaper and less hassle. and yes i know there are other upgrades on the ss/tc but still
#8
I get the money part of it... but how is it less hassle? You go drop you car off at the dealer, sign some papers pick up a used TC and you're done the same day. Or piece together an SC or TC kit which takes time, and then however long your car is going to be down during installation.
And yeah now that I think about it an auto car and a 5-spd car having the same whp means the auto car actually makes more power at the crank since there's greater losses through the auto, so assuming no trannies are tuned a fairer statement would be: given the same bhp, the 5-spd will be quicker because of less losses and gearing.
And yeah now that I think about it an auto car and a 5-spd car having the same whp means the auto car actually makes more power at the crank since there's greater losses through the auto, so assuming no trannies are tuned a fairer statement would be: given the same bhp, the 5-spd will be quicker because of less losses and gearing.
#9
I get the money part of it... but how is it less hassle? You go drop you car off at the dealer, sign some papers pick up a used TC and you're done the same day. Or piece together an SC or TC kit which takes time, and then however long your car is going to be down during installation.
And yeah now that I think about it an auto car and a 5-spd car having the same whp means the auto car actually makes more power at the crank since there's greater losses through the auto, so assuming no trannies are tuned a fairer statement would be: given the same bhp, the 5-spd will be quicker because of less losses and gearing.
And yeah now that I think about it an auto car and a 5-spd car having the same whp means the auto car actually makes more power at the crank since there's greater losses through the auto, so assuming no trannies are tuned a fairer statement would be: given the same bhp, the 5-spd will be quicker because of less losses and gearing.
Auto typically take more power. And typically speaking are only really faster due to being able to be consistent. Though in drag racing you can preload the drivetrain which helps. But you also have the gear ratios playing against you as well with the auto.
#10
I wanted to turbo my 2.4 ($4000 + install) my payments were $550. Traded The 2.4 for a tc and my payments dropped to $450 .Good power levels and with stage 1 ,I am where I wanted to be (power wise) with the 2.4 .In my case trading was the way to go.I also had very high hopes for the aftermarket for the 2.4 but most put there time into the sc and now the tc . It just seems way easier to mod the tc bolt ons and tune 300+ whp and 320 +wtorque (about $3200 for everything from Hahn except upgraded turbo)and a turbo upgrade (hopefully comming soon) who knows. Still miss the 2.4 it surprised alot of people.
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