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Old 12-09-2010 | 12:01 AM
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Post Meth Injection on a N/A car

Now before you go tearing into me I'm just putting this up because SOME N/A cars can see a benefit to adding meth injection. Also there is yet to be a thread to actually answer this question or throw up dyno #'s. Alright my question is has anyone seen hp gains from adding a meth kit to an N/A cobalt, specifically a 2.4. Here are some of the things an N/A car can gain from meth.

Benefits of Water Alcohol/Methanol Injection on NA application:

Lower air charge temperatures by 30-40 degree's
Reduces cylinder temperatures by 200+ degrees
Increase your 87-93 pump gas by 10-15+ points
Allows the use of lower grades fuels
Allows you to safely run more timing
Cools and protects the tops of your pistons
Longer more stable combustion expansion and progression
Removes carbon build up from combustion chambers, pistons and valves
Reduces & helps eliminate damaging engine detonation & pre-ignition
No need for expensive racing fuel or additives

Thanks for any feedback.
Old 12-09-2010 | 12:05 AM
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Most of the NA cars that use it have high compression builds where they need a higher octane than pump gas. Look into nitrous..it cools as well..
Old 12-09-2010 | 12:15 AM
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Most of the NA cars that use it have high compression builds where they need a higher octane than pump gas. Look into nitrous..it cools as well..
I'd love to! Idk I've thought alot about nitrous, but at the end of the day I wouldn't want to fill bottles. It's $62.50 for a 10lb bottle here. I'd want to use it all the time. For me I'd be a lot happier and feel like my money was better spent if I turbocharged. That isn't gonna happen cause if I'm going I'm going all the way with Stage 3 zzp. Too bad I'm a broke ass college kid. RPI = -$200,000ish
Old 12-09-2010 | 12:29 AM
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How much more timing could you really add? I mean I have a 2.4 here in tx on 23 degrees at 12.3 afr on 93. So not sure if more timing would really help out any. Nitrous would be a much better hp gain hell 50 shot would do wonders.
Old 12-09-2010 | 10:05 AM
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i didnt know i could put 87 octane in my car and be ok since i got meth! ****** 93 is $3.19 here..sorry for thread jacking but findin this info just saved me alot of money if its true
Old 12-09-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Your car stock is ment for regular gas. It will just put you on the lower timing table. If you ever run 93 you will notice the car feels stronger cause it is from more timing.
Old 12-09-2010 | 03:16 PM
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i didnt know i could put 87 octane in my car and be ok since i got meth! ****** 93 is $3.19 here..sorry for thread jacking but findin this info just saved me alot of money if its true
It's all good! I'm glad I could help you out.
Old 12-09-2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCobalt707
i didnt know i could put 87 octane in my car and be ok since i got meth! ****** 93 is $3.19 here..sorry for thread jacking but findin this info just saved me alot of money if its true
don't do that. depending on who tuned you, you may have a high octane timing in your low octane table as well, so even if.
Old 12-09-2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by laser_racer
Your car stock is ment for regular gas. It will just put you on the lower timing table. If you ever run 93 you will notice the car feels stronger cause it is from more timing.
How does the timing change from changes in octane in your fuel?
Old 12-10-2010 | 01:35 PM
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There is a high and low octane table for the cars. There are few factors that make the car select which table it needs to use. When I get to my laptop I will post up some pics of what I am talking about.
Old 12-19-2010 | 07:05 PM
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^^^ that is going to clear up so many future questions haha
Old 12-19-2010 | 10:29 PM
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Here you go.

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