thats what i thought the actual story was...

 

the 1st running turbo 2.4 balt on here was me regardless of who had parts or not. Having the parts sitting somewhere and having the car with the parts bolted on are 2 different things. Anyone could buy the parts and have them sit around. under that same logic i had the money to buy the parts way before i actually bought them but i was doing my research 1st.

also, when i 1st turboed my car it was a garrett 2.2 kit that was later converted to a hahn kit.

 

Haha... whatever man. I never said you weren't the first turbocharged 2.4L. Learn to read. I said that ppazz was the first to custom build a setup with no kit to start from. Believe me... it's a different game when you buy a kit versus when you build a totally custom setup. To this day, I still don't know of anyone else that pieced a setup together like that on a 2.4L.

And if you really want to start being a douche about things, ppazz actually built his setup and knew what he was doing. You didn't know what you were doing, so you had a shop install a kit. Anyone can drop a car off with some cash and have someone else make it fast. You had chose not to use a wideband, then you called us when you got stuck with tuning.

Point is, don't be a douchebag about it. You've got a turbocharged 2.4L and you were the first to use that kit on the car. Doesn't give you the right to try to put down other setups like you're the all-knowing guru. We're giving you credit where credit is due... so do the same and show respect for other people on this site.

 

i wasnt being a douche. but from what you wrote it made it sound like you werent giving credit where credit was due and thats the point i was trying to make. i never put his efforts down at all so im not seeing where you got that from. I have a family to take care of so im sorry if i dont have the time to be out tuning and street racing and drinking all night like alot of the pittsburgh cobalt people do. then when i do try to hang they ignore me because of that.

 

That's the comment that makes it sound like you're putting it down. Plus, the comments about all of the problems and not getting it running so he sold it are just not true. The setup was running 100% before an oil line clogged (technically, the restrictor clogged). But that setup was tuned and running 100% at 8psi.


Show me where I didn't give you credit for what you did... you bought a Garrett kit, you paid a shop, they installed it, and you became the first 2.4L outside of a shop car that had a turbo setup posted on this site. There's your credit.


And what a way to get yourself liked by the Pitt crew... out drinking and street racing all night??? Not at all. If you had ever hung out with us, you'd know that's not what we do. So don't lie in front of everyone on here and build the Pittsburgh people up to be drunk idiots out street racing all the time. Almost all of the racing takes place at Pittsburgh Raceway Park, North Park SCCA, Quaker, or BeaveRun. Drinking is separated from driving for most of us, and no one from our group drinks and then races.

No one from Pittsburgh had a problem with you as far as I knew, but you just made sure that no one wants you around now.

 

Lets get back on track with what this thread is meant for and we can continue this discussion elswhere.

 

i can definately vouch for that....its a COMPLETELY different ballgame....requires alot of research and time/effort. I cant tell you a week or even a day that has gone by that i havent learned something new about doing my custom setup. Fact is, if you want a challenge, make your owwn turbo setup, and then you really have something to be proud of.

 

Well, im learning as i go. i have no formal training in car engines. i try to read up as much as possible. When i was younger with less responsibilities i would have loved to build my own. but even with buying the pre fabbed pipping and all i still have kinks to work out and learn about and i dont have much time to deal with them.

Like right now I have a boost problem. I was barely getting like 9.75psi then i changed cat and downpipe and it should have jumped to 15psi if the cat was my issue but it only jumped to 11.75psi. So im not sure if i have a boost leak somewhere or what.

 

Street racing and drinking eh? Well Silent already spoke for most of us with his reply...

But I do believe when we were standing around Miracle Mile last night it was asked why Doug does not show up anymore.

Oh and there was no tuning, no street racing last night, just standing around for a few hours at MM bullshitting... there WAS drinking, after we left MM and went to Primanti Brothers to grab food.

I think the best option is to find a real tuner, and run far far away from ASAP

 

Actually only your buddy and Wes had a beer. Everyone else had non-alcoholic beverages. Good thing too... I went through a DUI checkpoint on 22 on my way home after.

 

do belt driven turbos count jk //

 

its all good. i really wish i could hang but my life is so hectic anymore. Drinking is great too as long as you plan ahead for safe transportation or you only have enough to stay within legal limits which you all seem to have no problem with.

 

i feel like i have to touch on this.


A custom turbo kit is cool, but 9 times out of 10, you end up spending more money for the same results.

I guess the only good thing about it is, you get to pick the turbo, Intercooler, etc.

Can i consider my kit as a "Custom" HAHN Kit cuz i took off the HAHN RC stickers?


But no, seriously. I love Celica's car. Hes got alot done to it (more so than me), i still have yet to throw on the tranny cooler...but hey. im gonna blow it up anyway, so it'll be a good focus point for people who know what the limit is.

 

That couldn't be more wrong. You pay more for a kit. You're paying for the time and effort that took to develop the kit.

My custom setup cost me about $2500 total, installed. The Hahn kit costs $3995 alone. Then you're going to pay for installation unless you do it yourself. Not to mention, I had a TiAL wastegate, GReddy BOV, 3" stainless downpipe, and much larger FMIC. My turbo was also bigger than the Hahn kit's turbo and flowed more air than the Hahn... which equates to more power. I guess what I'm saying is "more money for the same results" actually turned out to be "less money for better results".

 

$2500 in material sounds a bit low. Ebay alot of your parts?

The majority of the money comes from tuning. Back in CA i used to tune cars and for an average custom turbo-tune, we'd charge an easy $1500

 

Nope. eBay FMIC... but from a reliable vendor that a local shop recommended. TiAL wastegate, GReddy Type RS BOV, log style manifold, stainless downpipe, aluminum IC piping with silicone couplers, Turbonetics T3/TO4E turbo, 42# injectors, and a custom tune done by a few friends. Much better setup than a Hahn kit. It was actually built for this specific app, unlike the Hahn kit, which is the Garrett 2.2L kit plus an AFPR, return style fuel system, and tune. Plus, I had the ability to adjust the tune, unlike the Hahn kit which has a locked tune. My turbo was better sized for the 2.4L motor. Even my FMIC flowed more than the one included in the Hahn kit.

Nothing about my setup was cheap, except the overall cost. That setup ripped.

 

I finished my home made 2.4L turbo about six months ago. I have had no problems lately except for the clutch is slipping when I hit boost. It only has 30k on the motor and i treated it good so I suspect that the only reason it is slipping is due to the boost. What kind of clutch do you all think I should replace it with? I want something that will hold a lot of power because I plan on taking this car much further. I cant seem to find much of anything searching thru google.

This is what i have so far and it rips pretty well.

Mods:
T3/T4 .50 trim
60 Lb Injectors
3" down pipe no cat
2.5" hard pipes
DSM B.O.V
Blow thru MAF
38mm Tial Waste gate
3"X24"X12" F.M.I.C
HP tuned

 

out of curiosity...what psi are you running on the 50trim?

 

9 Pounds............ any clutch sugestions

 

what do you think of the hahn turbo kits? i was looking into it, but i didnt know whether i should spend the money on it yet...

 

spec stg 3+ w/new factory flywheel...hows the car feel with that amount of boost

 

so i have a question for you guys. With the turbo kit and custom tune around how much $ did this cost? And what is your personal preference on the best kit to get?

 

only kit is hahn and the tune could range from 500-1000

 

*A* tune is actually included with the Hahn kit. I don't have it yet installed on mine, but I've read from numerous folks that the tune isn't ideal for everyone.

That said, you won't need to spend an extra $500-$1000 for a DRIVABLE turbo kit... though you may need to spend in that ball park just for install if you aren't confident in your skills to do it yourself.

To a point, I haven't even heard to any degree what exactly is so wrong with the Hahn kit's tune, and I wonder how much of that comes from the engine tune, and how much from the tranny tune (which means **** to me as I'm MTx). I guess I'll just have to wait and see and dyno tune as necessary.

Now, with that said.. you could always make your own custom kit using whichever turbo you'd like. You just need a shop (or yourself) to fabricate all the tubing and piping as needed... then of course the fuel system, tuning, coolant, etc. Also, I believe there is (or was at one point) an Alpine kit out for the 2.2L, which would work except the tuning would obviously be different.

My $0.02, if you're going turbo - go Hahn. Doing otherwise is kind of like shopping around for the best price on tattoos.

 

those who have the hahn turbo kit and are manual, how do you like it? how does it sound? im considering getting it, but i just dont want to be dissappointed in it..ya know? how long would ya think it would take to install it, a weekend and a day or so? did you change your exhaust to hahn's 3"?