2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

picking up a 2.4 auto, need some opinions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-2013 | 06:13 PM
  #1  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
picking up a 2.4 auto, need some opinions

So i finally found a 2.4 automatic black cobalt ss exactly like i wanted for the right price, shes a little beat up cosmetically, and needs some TLC, nothing i can't handle though. Motor feels strong other then its sluggish to get up and go right from a dead standstill, i dont know if this is the drivebywire or it just needs a tune up. My biggest concern is the trans is shifting hard though, much like it has a shift kit or something in it. I know there was a TSB for the fluid drain and an extra magnet on the pan however I dont know if this is a potential problem that needs to be fixed or not. Need some opinions on this.


Old 06-20-2013 | 02:00 AM
  #2  
06blackbalt's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: 11-28-06
Posts: 1,434
Likes: 7
From: JEANERETTE,LA
How many miles on it ?, has it had a trans flush or trans filter changed?, the trans fluid could be mixed with some other brand that's not recommended I've seen that happen.
Old 06-20-2013 | 02:06 AM
  #3  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
127k, chick owned it prior, it has seen its share of neglect, so i can assume that the fluid has not been changed. The paint on the hood and roof is losing the clear. First thing im going to do is do a full flush and filter change.
Old 06-20-2013 | 05:43 AM
  #4  
mtbrent's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-11-07
Posts: 568
Likes: 1
From: Albany, NY
how much you pay for it???
Old 06-20-2013 | 05:52 AM
  #5  
buildmeanempire's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: 09-23-12
Posts: 3,759
Likes: 2
From: Batavia, Ohio
Don't do a flush. Just change it out.
Old 06-20-2013 | 07:21 AM
  #6  
nhanson's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 05-07-08
Posts: 6,428
Likes: 2
From: Minnesota
See if theres any trans codes. A long shift code will make the car bang the shifts because it thinks it slips on shifts.

Change fluid and filter...DONT DO A FLUSH.
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:01 AM
  #7  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
Yeh sorry i worded that wrong lol just a fluid and filter, i never flush these cars with anything. Ill have to double check for codes next time im over there. Im paying very very little for this car, id rather not post the number until its in my hands. lol
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:43 AM
  #8  
Ceeker's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 07-23-10
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: NS
What year? Motors for 2005/2006 are marginally stronger stronger. The throttle should be electric, not drive by wire.

with any used car, I would change all fluids, including brake. Filters, including fuel filter. Battery/starter/alternator at your discretion

Inspect alternator belt for weathering/cracks
Watch coolant temps, thermostat seizing is a common LE5 issue

Replace everything that's cheap/easy, hopefully we can get the ****** to 200k
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:56 AM
  #9  
Twoozofjuice's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: 12-19-11
Posts: 8,105
Likes: 4
From: Pharr
any CEL? hard shifting could be the cam solenoids or normal issues that always happen with the 2.4s

which was fix for my hard shifting btw^
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:02 AM
  #10  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by Ceeker
What year? Motors for 2005/2006 are marginally stronger stronger. The throttle should be electric, not drive by wire.

with any used car, I would change all fluids, including brake. Filters, including fuel filter. Battery/starter/alternator at your discretion

Inspect alternator belt for weathering/cracks
Watch coolant temps, thermostat seizing is a common LE5 issue

Replace everything that's cheap/easy, hopefully we can get the ****** to 200k
every maintenance item i can think of im gonna change, its a 06 so ill have to double check it for a throttle cable, if it does have one, then the flat spot when romping on the gas might be another issue.



Originally Posted by Twoozofjuice
any CEL? hard shifting could be the cam solenoids or normal issues that always happen with the 2.4s

which was fix for my hard shifting btw^
Didnt see any CEL's when i test drove it but ill have to double check it again, i would be happy if its just the cam solenoids lol gotta double check the vin against the recall issues as well.
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:06 AM
  #11  
Twoozofjuice's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: 12-19-11
Posts: 8,105
Likes: 4
From: Pharr
I got a 06 and don't have a cable tb. and do you like all of a sudden romp on it? cuz when I do that I get like a flat spot like you say like if I flood the engine with fuel haha
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:11 AM
  #12  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
yeh thats what im referring to, from a dead standstill i can literally count 2 seconds before it starts to accelerate.

another issue it has is with the gauges, they seem to be starting out below the 0 on both speedo and tach, and move up very slowly. They do move, but they arent calibrated correctly as far as i can tell.
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:26 AM
  #13  
Twoozofjuice's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: 12-19-11
Posts: 8,105
Likes: 4
From: Pharr
under 0 when the car is off? or when it is on
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:34 AM
  #14  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
all the time
Old 06-20-2013 | 01:37 PM
  #15  
Ceeker's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 07-23-10
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: NS
2006 LE5, all my gauge are below zero when the car is off. They were below zero when i had the stock cluster, and still calibrated the same when i swapped it for a pontiac g5 red one.

I dont think any of the ecotecs have drive by wire throttle, my 2006 one doesnt.

good call to do all the maintenace items, $500 of fluids and filters and w/e will go a long way for the motors long term health.

Also, its pretty easy to take off the stock airbox, intake plenum and throttle body; basically the whole air intake/cold side of the engine. Taking it all off and cleaning it all will definitly help long term health. If your handy, probably would only take you maybe an hour tops.

make sure you check the front and rear discs for deep grooves etc. I had a friend that bought a 'lady driven' car, and the disc brakes were grooved/scratch to ****, because she wore the pads down to nothing. metal on metal and the like.

sadly, i cant offer much advice on the automatic/hard shifting front.

i can however, say i as well had the cam solenoid issue, i did mine @ 115k km, /62k miles
they are another common issue with LE5, cheap fix. you can do it yourself.

Maybe that will also fix your issue?
Old 06-20-2013 | 01:41 PM
  #16  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
lol handy would be an understatement, the maintenance stuff shouldn't take me more than 2 hours, it needs the usuals, window motor on the passenger side, its got an issue with the drivers side door not opening correctly, gotta replace all the switches and lock actuator. Ill get the cam solenoids and replace those as well just since its a known issue.
Old 06-20-2013 | 07:35 PM
  #17  
water32's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 05-13-10
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Check to see it the Traction Control light is working. Sometimes mine will come on then the trans shifts really rough. It will not go off til you shut the car off (stupid system). If it's all good-great! Now get ready for the infamous, endless Check Engine Light problems with these 2.4's. lol
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:07 PM
  #18  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
lol anyone wanna give me a quick run down of common problems i should be expecting or what its probably experiencing.

The drivers side door wont open unless you unlock the passenger side first (as far as we can tell), same goes for when you try to lock it, passenger side first.

The passenger side window goes up and snails pace. (moms 08 2LT does this too)

Trans shifts like its got some sort of shift kit or is set to beast mode for shifting lol

Dull throttle response and roll out from WOT dead standstill

Gauges start (with the car running) lower then the 0 on both the speedo and tach, and when they climb they are lower then where they should be because of this.

Drivers side mirror wont go left, goes up down and right but no left (assuming mirror switch?)
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:19 PM
  #19  
chevygirl2006's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-21-11
Posts: 10,935
Likes: 93
From: Texas
So far the only problems I have had with my 2.4 were power steering went out and fuel pump went out. Both of those were recalls and then my blower motor went out. Replaced that. And now the only problem is my driver window doesn't work. The only CEL I have gotten was a misfire. Changed the spark plugs and it went away and then it came on when I put my zzp downpipe on. Got that tuned out. So I haven't had any issues that haven't been easily fixed. Right now my throttle body might be bad. It's causing some weird idles and rpm issues. But my car is close to 100k miles. So those few issues aren't that bad. Overall it's a good strong car.
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:25 PM
  #20  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
as long as they dont have common electric gremlins i couldnt care about all the parts that need to be replaced, this car is even cheaper to work on then my integra was lol some chicks apparently dont value their cars as much as you do though this car looks like hell and needs alot of TLC.
Old 06-20-2013 | 09:45 PM
  #21  
chevygirl2006's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-21-11
Posts: 10,935
Likes: 93
From: Texas
my car gets cleaned before my room.Ill just say that lol. Theres usually not a piece of dirt in my car. But i have had only one electrical problem. The headlight harness that is connected to the car got corosion and it got wet and i had to cut it off and put in a new one. thats it besides the driver window not working now.
Old 06-20-2013 | 10:48 PM
  #22  
Ceeker's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: 07-23-10
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: NS
Only issue I have had with the motor, are the cam solenoids, and thermostat. Both are common problems with LE5 that are up there in mileage. Both are easy cheap fixes. My motor has been abused with a turbo, and still runs great.

I have zero clue as to your door issues. There could be a setting on your driver console that may behave it. my windows do also go up slowish, especially if I do both at the same time.

One thing to look out for with the coupe windows, is that it's pretty easy for rocks/debris/tree biddies to get between the weather stripping of the windows and the door. Consequently, when you move the windows up and down, you will get long vertical scratches. No real permanent fix to this, except blow air to remove the particles/get firmer/tighter weather stripping.

Your mirror switch could be corrosion, it's real easy to take the doors apart. Screw under the switch bezel, screw under the handle. Use plastic pry bars around the edges to pop the clips. Doesn't need much force. You can check the mirror switch for conductivity, it's one motor for vertical and horizontal movement. So I'm guessing it could just be jiggly/loose etc
Old 06-20-2013 | 11:30 PM
  #23  
mtbrent's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 12-11-07
Posts: 568
Likes: 1
From: Albany, NY
Tally of non regular maintenance failures in my 143,000 miles....
45k: sway bar end link replaced, Driver side
80k: sway bar endlink replaced, passenger side
80k: EVAP purge valve replaced
81k: Power steering motor recall performed
82k: Driver side front wheel bearing replaced
99k: secondary 02 sensor replaced
Old 06-20-2013 | 11:33 PM
  #24  
Spawne32's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 11-24-08
Posts: 2,675
Likes: 1
From: New Jersey
so none of you have ever had the timing chain done?
Old 06-20-2013 | 11:36 PM
  #25  
chevygirl2006's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-21-11
Posts: 10,935
Likes: 93
From: Texas
not me


Quick Reply: picking up a 2.4 auto, need some opinions



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:30 AM.