sick and tired
#51
No reason why not, as long as you understand the cost involved. There are other transmissions that are out there that are better... Getting a built racing tranny would probably be about the same and have worlds more value.
#53
Auto is good for turbo, so is manual. Auto still has more parasitic power loss, regardless of set up... but auto requires less of a 'driver mod'.
I just don't think there's value in doing a tranny swap on an otherwise brand new car --- if we're talking about an 80-something Fox body, that's another matter.
But why go through all the time and expense just because you 'want' a manual, should've thought about that when you bought the thing imo.
I just don't think there's value in doing a tranny swap on an otherwise brand new car --- if we're talking about an 80-something Fox body, that's another matter.
But why go through all the time and expense just because you 'want' a manual, should've thought about that when you bought the thing imo.
#54
definatley son...na 212whp..come get some..
ok i know this is none of my buisness but damn dude ok you have a turbo cobalt..WOW mad props..you spent all that money and your running 13's dude c'mon thats not fast...matter fact thats not fast at all..considering there at 1.6ltr hondas out there funning 10's...so dont think your the ******* **** because you run 13's as far as im concerned ill suck your **** up and im na...so dont talk ****...you dont get me wrong have a decent car with decent power but damn son chill the hell out...jesus
ok i know this is none of my buisness but damn dude ok you have a turbo cobalt..WOW mad props..you spent all that money and your running 13's dude c'mon thats not fast...matter fact thats not fast at all..considering there at 1.6ltr hondas out there funning 10's...so dont think your the ******* **** because you run 13's as far as im concerned ill suck your **** up and im na...so dont talk ****...you dont get me wrong have a decent car with decent power but damn son chill the hell out...jesus
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#56
All I have to say to this subject, most every one here knows what I have done to my Ion and the best time that I have pulled out of it because I fail at driving this car is a 15.1 at 94mph
Also I have tuned an automatic cobalt with the same mods as myself, before the tune he was running 15.7-15.8's in the 1/4 mile after I tuned his car he ran a 15.1 at 89 or 90MPH. And from a roll depending on where we started it would go both ways because of gearing. A bolt on and tuned auto will keep up with a bolt on and tuned manual.
But they will not walk away that is for sure
Also I have tuned an automatic cobalt with the same mods as myself, before the tune he was running 15.7-15.8's in the 1/4 mile after I tuned his car he ran a 15.1 at 89 or 90MPH. And from a roll depending on where we started it would go both ways because of gearing. A bolt on and tuned auto will keep up with a bolt on and tuned manual.
But they will not walk away that is for sure
#57
with some practice, you will be fully in gear with the clutch out at around 1,000 rpms and with zero clutch slipping.
you're not too far from me (relatively) so if you wanted to drive out after you get the car i'll help you learn.
#58
have you seen a stock auto 2.4 with only a tuned tcm run a 14.9 or let a lone a low 15sec?
Just to compare the auto's (tuned and untuned) to a 5-speed
2.4 SS, MODDED
1.)celicacobalt,13.60@99.00 w/2.14 60',coupe,auto,TK/E/T/ST
2.)EcoBoost,13.78@101.74 w/2.09 60',coupe,auto,TK/E/T/ST
3.)BULLETSSMOKE,14.91@96.62 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
4.)MARIN007,15.04@92.80 w/2.19 60',coupe, 5-speed, I/E/ST
5.)thekingsSS,15.08@94.47 w/2.31 60',coupe,5-speed, I/H/E/T/ST
6.)Dunkinuts,15.15@93.89 w/2.39 60',coupe,5-speed,SM/ST
7.)GTP,15.17@92.33 w/2.35 60',sedan, 5-speed,I/T/ST
8.)PpAzZ1101,15.33@90.27 w/2.30 60',coupe, auto, I/E/T/CD/ST
9.)cobaltcruisin,15.99@84.97 w/2.34 60',coupe,auto,I/ST
Show me proof of a stock 2.4 manual racing a stock tcm tuned 2.4 auto w/ the auto "walking" away and i'll retract my statements. Until then i call bs
Just to compare the auto's (tuned and untuned) to a 5-speed
2.4 SS, MODDED
1.)celicacobalt,13.60@99.00 w/2.14 60',coupe,auto,TK/E/T/ST
2.)EcoBoost,13.78@101.74 w/2.09 60',coupe,auto,TK/E/T/ST
3.)BULLETSSMOKE,14.91@96.62 w/2.26 60',coupe,5-speed,I/H/DP/E/T/ST
4.)MARIN007,15.04@92.80 w/2.19 60',coupe, 5-speed, I/E/ST
5.)thekingsSS,15.08@94.47 w/2.31 60',coupe,5-speed, I/H/E/T/ST
6.)Dunkinuts,15.15@93.89 w/2.39 60',coupe,5-speed,SM/ST
7.)GTP,15.17@92.33 w/2.35 60',sedan, 5-speed,I/T/ST
8.)PpAzZ1101,15.33@90.27 w/2.30 60',coupe, auto, I/E/T/CD/ST
9.)cobaltcruisin,15.99@84.97 w/2.34 60',coupe,auto,I/ST
Show me proof of a stock 2.4 manual racing a stock tcm tuned 2.4 auto w/ the auto "walking" away and i'll retract my statements. Until then i call bs
#60
My car is auto and my fastest time is a 15.17 with a corrected time of 14.98. And that was on a fairly hot and humid day. So you can run in the low 15's
I have an intake, header, downpipe, tune, tranny mount inserts, and muffler. I now that there are plenty of people running low 15's in a stock 5 speed. But with the money that it would cost to swap the tranny it really isn't worth it. Get a high stall convertor from pro torque, tranny mount inserts, tranny cooler, and get your tranny tuned and you are in good shape with much much less money spent. Tune time did a heck of a job with my tranny tune. Redfocz rode in my car ask him what he thought of my tranny tune. I don't know if they can tune an 08 but they use ls2 edit not hptuners so maybe they could set you up.
by the way may 60 ft is 2.28 which is better than a lot of sticks out there.
I have an intake, header, downpipe, tune, tranny mount inserts, and muffler. I now that there are plenty of people running low 15's in a stock 5 speed. But with the money that it would cost to swap the tranny it really isn't worth it. Get a high stall convertor from pro torque, tranny mount inserts, tranny cooler, and get your tranny tuned and you are in good shape with much much less money spent. Tune time did a heck of a job with my tranny tune. Redfocz rode in my car ask him what he thought of my tranny tune. I don't know if they can tune an 08 but they use ls2 edit not hptuners so maybe they could set you up.
by the way may 60 ft is 2.28 which is better than a lot of sticks out there.
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#68
or.... you can just get an SS/TC cause there hot as hell, and that way all the SC guys will envy you.
Just think about the new seats, and the hot 2 tone interior, and be nailing corners at 90, watching all the SC guys slamming on the brakes. lol
Just think about the new seats, and the hot 2 tone interior, and be nailing corners at 90, watching all the SC guys slamming on the brakes. lol
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#70
pfft i wish i could but its a slim to no chance
#73
i definately want one!!!!for sure!!!!
#74
So how to you like the JBP cams, since you are really the first 2.4 to have them and have a running car, unlike (G5MIKE) I have been torn between getting cams or a turbo set up. I like the fact that are motors can put out decent numbers with just bolt on's and cams, but the cost of the cams are so much all most equeal to a decent turbo. Plus with cams you will need the valve springs to rev up past 7500 and at that point a slight port and polish would go hand and hand.
#75
like i said man there awesome...if you have the money to do a na set up im telling you its worth it...at my build im killing out stage 2 ss/sc's,ss/tc's and a stage 3 ss/sc with a **** ton of modds only kept a fender on me...so im highly impressed with this build!