Id love to know what it actually is.....

It could be just a hardware kit (belts, pulleys, nuts, bolts, intake, wiring) and then alot of you guys would be upset


I want a different supercharger kit (not an M62)

 

In the used and prototype parts have a supercharger kit its $ 1,150 I think but I don't know if it comes with all the little custom that you need

 

New Update

From ZZP's site:

Tired of trying customizing an LSJ supercharger kit to work on your car?
Sick of dealing with the never ending parts list to supercharge your NA Ecotec?

The ZZP supercharger kit offers an easy and affordable solution to supercharging your 2.2 or 2.4 liter.
Injectors that work with your stock harness, keep your original balancer, comes with a custom belt set up for your car, no change in tensioners and brackets, the ZZP kit offers it all.

Available for both stick and automatic transmissions.

Auto transmissions hold the engine further forward and the upper radiator support needs slight modification or you have to run the stage 2 kit as the pulley is smaller and will clear. Manual trans cars do not have any clearance issues.

The belt system works by changing the OEM routing slightly with a relocation bracket. This allows the factory routing and tensioner pulley to function for the entire system, including the supercharger. It's a 5 rib belt and the pulleys for the system are ZZP modular custom pulleys. Normal pulleys will not work.

Current plans are to use an LSJ coolant pump, lower intake and blower. Some components will be used, kits are waranteed for 1 year.

06/07 kits come with a TB adaptor harness and a kit for these cars should be shipping March 1st. 08+ kits will require an extension harness, TB adaptor plate and be shipping soon after for $100 more.

We have not set pricing yet but we are doing our best to ensure the kit is competitive with other forced induction offerings.

Stage 1 includes a 3.4" pulley, intercooler, 39# injectors and complete SC kit ready to bolt on.

Stage 2 includes a smaller pulley, dual pass, larger HE and 60#.

-This kit will be coming with an open cone intake. Stock and aftermarket intakes will not fit. THis is due to the washer bottle being in the way on NA cars. If you so desired, the washer fluid bottle could be moved and a standard intake could be run.

 

Custom pullies, that's odd,o well if they insist on running 5rib

 

This sounds pretty awesome to me I wonder if it includes the tune also or are we on our own for that?

 

Doesnt say anything abot a tune. Like I said before, the routing/belt system is probably gonna be very similar to the Ariel Atom setup was.......

So.....My guess is $2399 for Stage1 and $2699 for stage 2

conefilter is interesting, either a very short intake tube, or its got to come with a tune to make it run in speed density without a MAF

 

That was my next ? ,speed density would be cool

 

That's a pretty high price seeing as there stage 1 turbo goes for $2000 I'm hoping its a lil cheaper than $2000 something between $1500 and $1900 and I wonder what size pulley's they are going to make since they are gonna be custom?

 

If there is any ZZp customization I'd expect Mavens guess to be close. 1500 is guess at a supercharged setup IMO. I'd plan on more then that for essentials, gagues, and a tune not to mention the supporting mods that most 2.2ls who have done this setup bought.

Plus, why would ZZP sell this without margin? IF I can piece a great kit together myself over time for ~2000k why would ZZP do this work and charge the same? I don't know how much thier S1 turbo kit was for them @ cost but I doubt they are doing charity work there..

 

lol so if I still do this instead of a project car id need to go stage 2 so I wouldnt have to cut into the supports. Probably wouldnt be a bad idea to add a transmission cooler to the auto either.

 

Yeah, and there stage 1 turbo kit is just a turbo, manifold, downpipe and charge piping(basically....i know theres more) This is coming with an intake manifold, intercooler pump, heat exchanger, belt setup, air filter.......

Their stage2 turbo kit includes a liquid-air intercooler and is $2600.......


They said its going to be priced "competitively with other forced induction offerings" seeing as how they offer the cheapest kit on the market with there stage1 turbo, and it just goes up from there youd have to be pretty naive to think it would be cheaper than that, especially as little as $1500.

Lets look at it this way.....the GMPP Cavalier SC kit was $2400......it wasnt intercooled. AND t was put together from pieces that GM ordered by the tens of thousands........ZZP is probably gonna make several DOZEN of these at most is my guess. How the hell are they gonna sell it at $1500?

Honestly it would be great if you guys and your $1500 nonsense are correct, **** I'd buy one.......but I highly doubt it and I think it gonna be just one more item that everyone wanted and very few people buy because so many people dont understand that things cost money, and they cost what they cost for a reason, they cant just magically be whatever price people wish for.

it says right on their site that Stage1 is a 3.4" pulley.

 

Your probably right on the price. However despite it coming with the extra stuff I believe the Stage 2 sc kit needs to come in under the stage 2 turbo kit. There needs to be an incentive to go with the sc kit.

 

I could see stage2 SC being within $100 of the STG2 turbo but not any lower.

The incentive is theres no oil lines, if oyuve already got a header you can keep it, and of course some people dont want a turbo

 

I prefer sc its just the powerband I prefer. And theres no oil lines. Theres no header either. Theres also less potential in overall power if using an M62 sc (didnt see mention of which sc). Though Im an 08 so I will need to pay the 100 dollars they are saying for the tb adapter and wiring harness. Which kinda sucks.

 

Any info on if this will fit an 05 auto?

 

It will, you'll just need the stage 2 setup with the smaller pulley.

 

their own pullys, is it the pully on the snout of the SC? if so, is 3.1 pully (stage 2) the smallest we can go? idk how much a 3.1 pully puts out on psi but if its less than 12, i think 12 or so is what i would want if i ever go SC cause heard that is about the peak before you gotta change internals and stuff. Im auto too .

also they say that they will start shipping march 1st. this may come out mid feb and give people time to get money. we'll just have wait.

 

if id have to upgrade to the stage 2 then id like to see 250whp out of the stage 2 on an auto on the stock exhaust.

 

Yeah. I cant imagine the price jump from STG 1 to STG 2. Just because most of us dont want to mess with grinding stuff down to make it fit. They make it so if you want it to fit right the first time you have to spend more money.

 

I think 250whp on full stock exhaust might be stretching it.

 

like I said id like to see it. But if its not above 230whp and its above 2200 bucks then I can tell you thatd be enough for me to lose interest.

 

i made 260 on 3" pulley, meth, full exhaust, 3" intake, and a really good tune

not to mention a clutch and flywheel, which you'll need for sure, your stock one will want nothing to do with it

 

I know what youre saying but i think basing any expectations of of the stock exhaust is silly.

And if all youre after is power numbers for lowest cost just get the Stage1 turbo........ZZP got 239whp on a stock AUTO 2.4L with STG1 and #39 injectors, so youre looking at probably $2050 to meet your power goals. Stage1 turbo is arguably easier to install than the SC kit.....

 

soo true.

/thread lol

 

BUt the stg1 turbo vs supercharger, which would be more reliable?