well i talked to tag over in supporting vendors forums about possibly hooking us up with a whipple s/c setup and he said that after they are finished the 2.0 setup that he might be able to help us with a setup based off of the whipple 1200ax. Not sure on any details to the kit but we will def. need a 1200ax blower/H-E/Intercooler/TAG fabbed ss/sc intake mani./All belts and relocation lines and maybe a few other minor parts.
....its not for sure yet but if we can get a test car that is willing to do this in the toronto area we could very well see a whipple kit by summer of 07 for us 2.4's
...i think this is a great opportunity for us and if enough of us show interest in this im sure it will happen.

show interest!!!

 

wouldn't it make more sense to have a kit where we use the old supercharger off the 2.0 that way when they upgrade they can make some money back selling it the company or to us? either way i know the whipple is way better just curious we can recyle

 

not sure...i would think you mgith loose a bit off of that ...but who knows....id rather go whipple to start with ...if im gonna modify a sc..might as well go all the way..

 

They already have a thread going on this. And honestly no one on here is gonna shell out money for anything. People on this site dont do R&D They want the kit with dyno proven gains and promises that nothing with blow up. And if anyhting goes wrong they wants 24 hour tech support. Basically they want there hand held threw the whole thing. Since im the negitive one i'll start off by saying even if they do do this for the cobalt community over half the peple who swear they would order the kit will back off when they realize the stock motor/Non Lsd tranny won't be the most reliable thing over 300 WHP

 

youd be suprised who would go for this...and also no they are not working on this for our car already they are working on it for the lsj....this is a future production idea provided we show enough interets ...damn you are one negative ****

 

lol mike25

 

lol i read his post and i was like wtf go be negative somewhere else....but i seriously think it could work

 

Too bad I'm not up there. I hope the test car is an AUTOMATIC!

 

Is there a 1200ax? All I see on the site is a 200ax.

 

yeah i think all test cars should be auto so it fits both cars. supercharging would be cool but i think im going turbo for sure

 

the supercharger itself is actuallymade by another company called lyndhom or something like that. Its the company that whipple was buying parts fro their blowers from for a while there.
you guys should head over to the thread in the supporting vendors forum about s/c ing a 2.4 and show your interest in it....please

 

I'm waiting to see the new Eaton supercharger that is smaller and gives more boost.

 

that he is, but he has a point. it'd be much more cost effective to swap an ss/sc blower onto the 2.4 unless you plan on putting down 320+whp. At that point you are gonna be spending an ass load of money on axles, pistons, possibly rods, traction mods, tranny mods, etc. Plus a twin screw is not cheap.

 

The Eaton will be good for the 2.4 since it will be a low boost application. 8psi on the stock 2.4 setup should yield some very impressive numbers.

A Lysholm would also be cool, but they are best used for higher boost apps. Not that it wouldn't work, but to use it to it's fullest potential.

This is just my oppinion.

 

My thought exactly. Our stock blower (at 12psi) should make some real good numbers on a 2.4

 

If I remember correctly the SRT-4's were on 8psi with 8.5:1 compression. Just imagine the LE5 with 8psi and the VVT setup to run like a Miller cycle cam. Yummy.

 

yup yup. With that whipple on there these 2.4 guys are gonna hit 250+Whp before they can bat an eyelash with a 2.4L compared to our 2.0. Also not really sure but is'nt your guys compression ratio a little higher than us too. Us ss/sc guys can't even handle 300+ whp comfortably so i wish you guys the best of luck once you get there. you might as well order the kit, yank your motor and rebuild EVERYTHING

 

yeah ever since my motor/tranny blew up Plus they took away my darksun280 name I've been a little bitter inside. I'm getting better though. im on step 5 of the "12 steps to recovery after blowing up your current vehicle" self help program. I think I'm gonna be alright......

 

Yeah my buddy/co-worker is on step 3, he just finished balling out after some ******* granny slammed the brakes on his 400hp WRX. He is working on a BMW drifter now.

 

Toronto eh? It would seem that I live in Toronto and that Ive dynoed my car at Tag before. Really nice guys working there. That would mean I would have to buy out my car after the lease...I was actually considering buying out the car simply because Im having a very hard time keeping my mileage where it should be... Any thoughts? I believe the buyout is $10000 Canadian.

I was thinking of just doing the new cams coming out from jbodyperformance. I dunno now...

 

really, if you can get the results that you want all motor for a reasonable price, i say go for it over f/i. It is much harder to make power all motor, but if you can do it, it will be more reliable and very sleeperish.

 

Thanks for the advice What does everyone else think?

 

BOOST!!!!! I'ma take a slight stab at 8cd03gro and reply with its easy to say stay all motor when you have a v8 under the hood

 

Im worried about problems that would come with forcing more power out of the engine. Any reassurance there?

 

I mean this in the most undickhead way possible but you are a noob but thats ok we were all noobs once. And as much as i hate to tell people to search thats exactly what you should do. Take the time and browes through these forums. your not gonna get exact answers from people like me or anyone else. you should do your own reasearch and come up with your own conclusions. any motor can have more power squeezed out of it but how much and at what cost is the question. search, read threads thats what i did. i asked specific questions back in the day when i was a noob you cant ask general ones like " how do i get to 250Whp" cause trust me its been coverd or stickied.

But as a freebe I can assume with out any knowledge that a 2.4 dynos probly in the 150-160 WHP range. Since i know your bottom end is similar to mine i would figure it good til 260-270 whp but thats MAXED out. i would figure on boost with all its variables what ever set up i did i would not try to go over 230WHP on all stock components. I'm sure it can be done but again part reliablity comes into question. That'll have you in the high to mid 14's realisticly with a decent driver at that cars weight.