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Old 10-02-2007 | 01:17 AM
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Torque Damper VS Mounts

I think i understand the concept of both of these parts. The only issue I have is that I read on another forum that someone should have purchased better Mounts and get rid of their Torque Damper. Also something like the Torque Damper doesnt fit with certain Intakes, is this true? I am not sure if my title, "Torque Damper VS Mounts," is even a viable comparisson. I must inquire if I cannot locate any info. If anyone happens to know and cares to respond, please do so.
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Originally Posted by wordsthatiwrote
I think i understand the concept of both of these parts. The only issue I have is that I read on another forum that someone should have purchased better Mounts and get rid of their Torque Damper. Also something like the Torque Damper doesnt fit with certain Intakes, is this true? I am not sure if my title, "Torque Damper VS Mounts," is even a viable comparisson. I must inquire if I cannot locate any info. If anyone happens to know and cares to respond, please do so.
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You are so right man and yes mounts are the better way to go in my opinion
Old 10-02-2007 | 01:22 AM
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You are so right man and yes mounts are the better way to go in my opinion
Thanks, i also wonder,

Could one not use bot new mounts and a torque damper and get an even firmer shift over just replacing mounts?
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im a virgin when it comes to dampers/mounts but i am looking to reduce my wheel hop and crisper shifts (what ingalls says it does) but i have a KN SRI intake and a ingalls wont fit..so what exacly are "Mounts" (links would help)
Old 10-02-2007 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wordsthatiwrote
Thanks, i also wonder,

Could one not use bot new mounts and a torque damper and get an even firmer shift over just replacing mounts?
I think i know what you are asking if you buy the tranny bushing you should buy the motor mount also cause they work together but yeah you can buy the Tourqe dampner and tranny bushing/mounts and it will work as far as the 2.2/2.4s fitment for the tq dampner is a little odd when it comes to the intake but motor mount wont be a problem i dont think

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im a virgin when it comes to dampers/mounts but i am looking to reduce my wheel hop and crisper shifts (what ingalls says it does) but i have a KN SRI intake and a ingalls wont fit..so what exacly are "Mounts" (links would help)
Here is a link to Turbo Tech Racing they have solid motor and tranny mounts/bushing for your car take a look


http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dCategory=5615

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Old 10-02-2007 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
I think i know what you are asking if you buy the tranny bushing you should buy the motor mount also cause they work together but yeah you can buy the Tourqe dampner and tranny bushing/mounts and it will work as far as the 2.2/2.4s fitment for the tq dampner is a little odd when it comes to the intake but motor mount wont be a problem i dont think



Here is a link to Turbo Tech Racing they have solid motor and tranny mounts/bushing for your car take a look


http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dCategory=5615
can u go into details and tell me where it goes and what install is like lol :P thakns and ill pass u some +rep
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will those tranny mounts work with the auto trans. They look really similar.
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Originally Posted by ProjektCobalt
can u go into details and tell me where it goes and what install is like lol :P thakns and ill pass u some +rep
Here are a couple of links for you to look at its easier if you just look at them because mine is a ss/sc and its a little different here are the links


https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-install-cpp-rear-poly-trans-mount-62105/

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...install+mounts

this one is for manual 2.2s

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...install+mounts

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will those tranny mounts work with the auto trans. They look really similar.
yes take a look at the links i just posted and it tells you everything hope i helped you guys out some

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Originally Posted by wordsthatiwrote
I think i understand the concept of both of these parts. The only issue I have is that I read on another forum that someone should have purchased better Mounts and get rid of their Torque Damper. Also something like the Torque Damper doesnt fit with certain Intakes, is this true? I am not sure if my title, "Torque Damper VS Mounts," is even a viable comparisson. I must inquire if I cannot locate any info. If anyone happens to know and cares to respond, please do so.
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Get the intense package. They aren't too far from you. It is night and day. The car feels like a performance car should. It has no wheel hop at all. It is one of the only parts I have on my car that I have 0 complaints about. Worth every penny.
Old 10-02-2007 | 08:26 AM
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The Ingalls works good enough for me. It was cheap, easy to install and looks pretty nice under the hood. Motor mounts will give you even less wheel hop, but they are harder to install and can create knock. I rarely race my car, so the Ingalls was all I wanted/needed.

However, if you have a SRI (K&N, GMPP, Weapon-R, Z-Spec), then you really have no choice but to get mounts, as the Ingalls ETD won't fit with a SRI.
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jonbellew
I went with the tranny mount urethane inserts and a torque dampener so you dont have to do the engine mount. I felt a huge difference.
Exactly my plan. I have the Ingalls ETD, and I'm gonna buy a front/rear set of Prothane tranny mount inserts from New Edge Performance when I go to pick up my Progress sway bar.
Old 10-02-2007 | 05:39 PM
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I have just the prothane tranny mount inserts and there is a huge difference. wheelhop is almost eliminated, there is still a little bit if the road is wet, but I dont think the motor mount or damper would be worth the money for that little bit. when I first installed them vibrations were bad, it shook the dash when you started it, but now I only notice them if Im idling with the ac on. so i guess my sugestion would be try the tranny mount inserts, and then decide if you want more.
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Here are a couple of links for you to look at its easier if you just look at them because mine is a ss/sc and its a little different here are the links


https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62105

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...install+mounts

this one is for manual 2.2s

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...install+mounts



yes take a look at the links i just posted and it tells you everything hope i helped you guys out some
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nice, nice +rep
thanks man returned the favor
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Originally Posted by wordsthatiwrote
I think i understand the concept of both of these parts. The only issue I have is that I read on another forum that someone should have purchased better Mounts and get rid of their Torque Damper. Also something like the Torque Damper doesnt fit with certain Intakes, is this true? I am not sure if my title, "Torque Damper VS Mounts," is even a viable comparisson. I must inquire if I cannot locate any info. If anyone happens to know and cares to respond, please do so.
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You are so right man and yes mounts are the better way to go in my opinion
Originally Posted by wordsthatiwrote
nice, nice +rep
remember for handling and antiwheel hop to go for the front control arm bushing from JBP. does wonders.
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:23 PM
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The Ingalls works good enough for me. It was cheap, easy to install and looks pretty nice under the hood. Motor mounts will give you even less wheel hop, but they are harder to install and can create knock. I rarely race my car, so the Ingalls was all I wanted/needed.

However, if you have a SRI (K&N, GMPP, Weapon-R, Z-Spec), then you really have no choice but to get mounts, as the Ingalls ETD won't fit with a SRI.
What do you mean can create knock?
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:24 PM
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IMO BWoody mount's are the best for these cars. Get the complete set with all 3.

TQ Damper is a waste, why add something else to car to go wrong when you can just fix the problem all together. Whoever said mounts give false readings of knock has it backwards. All the locals who had the Ingalls experienced false knock readings. They threw the POS away and got after market mounts. Knock went away, and so did wheel hop/motor movement.

JBP CAB's are known to fall apart. Happen to quite a few members. Complete waste for what they cost. That is putting aside the fact that they are a JBP product as well.

If you want minimal vibes though, I would look into the Intense-Racing inserts.
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if yalls cars pull like mine you should get the traction bars.same price as the t/d but a hell of a lot better.
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:57 PM
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remember for handling and antiwheel hop to go for the front control arm bushing from JBP. does wonders.
They may help some but i honestly think that the bushings and motor mount take care of it very well and A arm bushing is a secondary thing to get afterwards just my opinion

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if yalls cars pull like mine you should get the traction bars.same price as the t/d but a hell of a lot better.
I dont think traction bars are a hell of a lot better then motor mount and tranny bushings for one i drove a car with traction bars and i have to say just aint as a solid ride with the motor and tranny bushings

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Old 10-02-2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee

I dont think traction bars are a hell of a lot better then motor mount and tranny bushings for one i drove a car with traction bars and i have to say just aint as a solid ride with the motor and tranny bushings
im not talking about motor mounts im talking about the Torque Damper
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I notice all ppl who post suggestions and what they have on their cars are 2.0 owners

do SC engine mounts fit the 2.4? it's not the same block at all..
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im not talking about motor mounts im talking about the Torque Damper
oh ok but yeah traction bars are better then the TQ Dampner by far

Originally Posted by Renesis
I notice all ppl who post suggestions and what they have on their cars are 2.0 owners

do SC engine mounts fit the 2.4? it's not the same block at all..
not all of these but here is a link where you can find them for your 2.4 and the other links in the thread are how to install them


http://www.turbotechracing.com/produ...dCategory=5615

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Old 10-02-2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
oh ok but yeah traction bars are better then the TQ Dampner
i agree but why is everybody set on the t/d.you see more post about them other then the traction bars
Old 10-02-2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 06redlineb
i agree but why is everybody set on the t/d.you see more post about them other then the traction bars
i dont know well cause people can stand vibes and traction bars are a little harder to install then the t/d but i think best money for the buck is the motor mount and tranny bushings
Old 10-02-2007 | 11:24 PM
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The TD gives you the best of both worlds.

I will soon be selling mine, as im buying slicks so i need to go for the full mounts/bushings,

but a TD is an excellent piece, because it allows you to have the benefit of greatly reduced wheelhop on track days, but with 3 minutes work, its removed and your back to stock feel for daily driving and commuting.


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