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Old 05-25-2012 | 09:44 PM
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You can tune the ce coefficients.. Just like the lsj and etc.. But the tables he will need to adjust is the map scallers. idle spart and etc. (its honestly just like a ls series with the timing part for the idle if cammed) also injector scaling, and including pe tables. Id honestly get in bed with the car first and rub its tummy and ask what it likes lol.. But learning purposes its fairly close to lsjs and etc, but it has cam phasing and a little more. If you want a base file let me know and ill send you one!!
pffft thatd be sweet! go ahead and shoot me one so I can use the compare feature and see what it is you guys are playing with that way I can do some research. If you can include the setup on the car that way Ill know what Im looking at. Like how many #'s of boost, what injectors, etc

my email is stone4779@ gmail if you wanna send it there, idk if the boards here support the file size or type?

Yeah my senses tell me in 2-3 months I might have all my responsibilties taken care of and ill be able to just play! (turbo!)

In the meantime I can poke around HPTuners, and tune the VE just like it is(stock, no mods at all) to just re-familiarize myself with the whole process again...

I tune a lot of F150s with the cam phasers, so Im not too scared to play with the VVT table here either.
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Old 05-25-2012 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Also your in tennessee. Why havent you ever made it to my tuning meets...
Actually I still live in deeeep south Texas, but I am moving to TN to be closer to my family. Ive only been there once before so Im starting all new, no friends, very little family, no job, etc. I just need a break from all the crappy people down here. Everyone uses eachother, they all lie and cheat and steal and stab you in the back. Its crazy.

I figure if I can just get close to a good college and go back to school and relax in the wilderness in the meantime, I should be fine.

Once my GTO gets out the it wont be so peaceful haha!

So whats up with these tuning meets you are talking about? You get together with some people and show them tips n tricks to tuning?

How far is your location form Knoxville? Cuz thats pretty much the area Im moving to. Would be nice to hang with some like-minded folks! Down here everyones out to make a BUCK and not a FRIEND! :/
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Old 05-25-2012 | 09:51 PM
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But like i said, i am willing to give you a base if you want one.. Just if i do and you use that file, i would like some logs to make sure everything is going smoothly!
Yeah for sure! Im pretty excited to be tuning a Cobalt finally! I have bought an 05 2.2L only to find out LATER, that HPTuners doesnt, and probably never will, offer support for that year and engine. WTF!? I was kinda disappointed about that. Now, 3 years later..I finally got one that I can tune myself lol...and its a SS too! Even better in the long run haha..I actually paid twice as much for the 05 as I did for this 07! Crazy... It was just too good a deal to pass up, I HAD to buy it!
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Old 05-25-2012 | 09:52 PM
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pffft thatd be sweet! go ahead and shoot me one so I can use the compare feature and see what it is you guys are playing with that way I can do some research. If you can include the setup on the car that way Ill know what Im looking at. Like how many #'s of boost, what injectors, etc

my email is stone4779@ gmail if you wanna send it there, idk if the boards here support the file size or type?

Yeah my senses tell me in 2-3 months I might have all my responsibilties taken care of and ill be able to just play! (turbo!)

In the meantime I can poke around HPTuners, and tune the VE just like it is(stock, no mods at all) to just re-familiarize myself with the whole process again...

I tune a lot of F150s with the cam phasers, so Im not too scared to play with the VVT table here either.
yeah you've definitely got a leg up on me there. I haven't had the sack to dive into the vvt tables yet.. lol.... I do obviously fully understand the benefits and importance of adjusting the cam tables when going from an n/a engine to boosted BUT so far the engine hasn't seemed to have minded very much..
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Ok it is sent.. I sent you two files that ve was not messed with along with cam phasing.... One is turbo, the other is sced!
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Old 05-25-2012 | 09:59 PM
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The tuning meets are usually just mee and quite a few of my guys, im there to answer question and etc. There are other tuners around but alot of them have blown cars up!!! Which is why im here lol!!! But i live in dab middle of ky lol Vine grove, its near Fort Knox!!!
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:00 PM
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Ok it is sent.. I sent you two files that ve was not messed with along with cam phasing.... One is turbo, the other is sced!
Would you at all mind if I tried out some of those turbo cam tables too? I know this isn't my thread but I'd love to be able to check it out.
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:09 PM
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Lol i sent him 2.4 tables!!
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:11 PM
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2.4 turbo and 2.4 sc
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:12 PM
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:17 PM
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Awsome man! I was actually looking for the 2.4 cam tables as well, but I'm definitely willing to try out those lnf cam tables ya got there too!
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On the 2.4 the came tables are different then a lnf and depending on boosted or not is dependant on the over lap and etc!
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
On the 2.4 the came tables are different then a lnf and depending on boosted or not is dependant on the over lap and etc!
oh of course.... that's sort of why I was hoping to check out the cam tables you had for a turbo's le5. The cam tables I was refering to earlier were specifically in reference to my buddies boosted le5 that I've been working on a tune for. As for now I haven't touched the cam tables and the car has responded great actually, but I obviously would to get rid of any scavenging and valve overlap the stock tables have.... I just haven't been daring enough to dive into them by myself yet though..
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:47 PM
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That is seriously awesome of you man! Now if I can just get the tables to actually paste into hpt! lol!

I'll figure something out though. Either way, i do appreciate the help. I'm stoked to try these tables out in his car now..
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Old 05-25-2012 | 10:53 PM
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If not let me know Ill send less aggressive tables
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Old 05-25-2012 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Yeah exactly. Place the maf on the straightest part of the pipe as possible about 10" or more away from the tb on the coldside pressure pipe. It can give you some fits with dialing in, but it works much better that way.

A buddy of mine has a boosted le5 on e85 and 80's that I'm still trying to dial in for him. The thing pulls like a freakin beast but the maf is giving me some issues and we also reached the limits of his fuel pump at the moment so it's leaning out over 5500rpm with 15psi. For now I haven't even touched his ve tables so he's running purely off the maf over 1500rpm and as soon as he hits possative manifold pressure.

So yeah, there's really not any "gadgetry" aside from a wideband that you will need but it's still definite gonna be a fun time dialing it in man.

you rang
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Old 05-26-2012 | 12:14 AM
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you rang
haha.. I was wondering how long it would take for you to chime on in..
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Old 05-26-2012 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
yeah you've definitely got a leg up on me there. I haven't had the sack to dive into the vvt tables yet.. lol.... I do obviously fully understand the benefits and importance of adjusting the cam tables when going from an n/a engine to boosted BUT so far the engine hasn't seemed to have minded very much..
Im sure it couldnt hurt to pull 2-4 degrees and see how it dynos, where it lose and where it picked up HP, if any.

Im sure you could also never even change anything and itd run fine..up to a point
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Old 05-26-2012 | 12:21 AM
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Ok it is sent.. I sent you two files that ve was not messed with along with cam phasing.... One is turbo, the other is sced!
Sweet man thanks! I gotem!
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Old 05-26-2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
The tuning meets are usually just mee and quite a few of my guys, im there to answer question and etc. There are other tuners around but alot of them have blown cars up!!! Which is why im here lol!!! But i live in dab middle of ky lol Vine grove, its near Fort Knox!!!
Thats pretty good of you to do bro..

Id be down to meet up and tinker with our tunes and learn from eachother.

Yeah theres a lot of crappy tuners out there..Ive seen some pretty bad ones lol
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Old 05-26-2012 | 05:36 AM
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What are those ZZP Stage 3 air to air kits pushing at the wheels? The more I think about it the more I kind of want it lol..$3600 aint bad at ALL
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Old 05-26-2012 | 06:38 AM
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My zzp3 water to air on there startup tune was
272, 276.
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Old 05-26-2012 | 10:39 AM
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Haven't been able to post due to work. Happy to see some useful information in this thread. It surely helps others such as the OP
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