TVS for 2.4 sport auto
10-25-2009 | 05:26 PM
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i keep telling him hes gonna need either meth or e85 to reach his goal. i have a kit for sale cheap he can take but he seems to be to stubborn. 300whp is tough to do on tvs not every1 does. correct me if im wrong but i dont think any1 has ever hit 300whp without meth or e85 on tvs or m62, let alone on the "stock" tvs pulley
10-25-2009 | 07:26 PM
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im also gonna throw in that though your previous thread made you look like a retard, im excited about this build (i was going to do it mysef), so i'll help you out on the forums wth any info i've got so far.
10-25-2009 | 10:31 PM
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WOW I feel I'm back in school with all these definitions.
I plan on running the TVS once my Eaton is on for a while, but a full bottom end build will be needed first. Lower compression is a must.
WOW I lawl'd so hard at his threads...and I wish I was still in Florida...see how much of a "G" he really is.
WOW I lawl'd so hard at his threads...and I wish I was still in Florida...see how much of a "G" he really is.
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10-25-2009 | 11:55 PM
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the stock internals on the 2.4 are fine, lol look at zzp's car
no need to go "low compression" or bottom end until you get to major power, which 90% of people wont
14 psi turbo set up on stock internals for my car all day
and i really , really doubt you could get 400 whp with a tvs with previous experience with my m62 setup, thats my input im done
no need to go "low compression" or bottom end until you get to major power, which 90% of people wont
14 psi turbo set up on stock internals for my car all day
and i really , really doubt you could get 400 whp with a tvs with previous experience with my m62 setup, thats my input im done
10-26-2009 | 12:46 AM
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10-26-2009 | 02:27 AM
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10-26-2009 | 02:33 AM
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10-26-2009 | 10:52 AM
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10-26-2009 | 11:14 AM
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the first person to break 400whp with a TVS ran 11:1CR.. LE% is larger displacement and only 10.4:1. I see it as a big benefit, not a downside
im also gonna throw in that though your previous thread made you look like a retard, im excited about this build (i was going to do it mysef), so i'll help you out on the forums wth any info i've got so far.
im also gonna throw in that though your previous thread made you look like a retard, im excited about this build (i was going to do it mysef), so i'll help you out on the forums wth any info i've got so far.
i keep telling him hes gonna need either meth or e85 to reach his goal. i have a kit for sale cheap he can take but he seems to be to stubborn. 300whp is tough to do on tvs not every1 does. correct me if im wrong but i dont think any1 has ever hit 300whp without meth or e85 on tvs or m62, let alone on the "stock" tvs pulley
WOW I feel I'm back in school with all these definitions.
I plan on running the TVS once my Eaton is on for a while, but a full bottom end build will be needed first. Lower compression is a must.
WOW I lawl'd so hard at his threads...and I wish I was still in Florida...see how much of a "G" he really is.
I plan on running the TVS once my Eaton is on for a while, but a full bottom end build will be needed first. Lower compression is a must.
WOW I lawl'd so hard at his threads...and I wish I was still in Florida...see how much of a "G" he really is.
the stock internals on the 2.4 are fine, lol look at zzp's car
no need to go "low compression" or bottom end until you get to major power, which 90% of people wont
14 psi turbo set up on stock internals for my car all day
and i really , really doubt you could get 400 whp with a tvs with previous experience with my m62 setup, thats my input im done
no need to go "low compression" or bottom end until you get to major power, which 90% of people wont
14 psi turbo set up on stock internals for my car all day
and i really , really doubt you could get 400 whp with a tvs with previous experience with my m62 setup, thats my input im done
10-26-2009 | 11:41 AM
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I agree, the larger displacement is great, but you need to go into it knowing that you're going to have to build the bottom end or you'll go boom. The fact that the LE5 doesn't have iron cylinder sleeves is another big uh-oh.
This is correct. Auto M62's cannot run larger than a 3" pulley because it simply won't fit. We had to take a mini-sledge to my radiator support to get my M62 to fit with a 3" pulley. I can't imagine trying to wedge a TVS' big ass pulley under that hood.
Some things are futile.
Building the bottome end is going to be a must.
ZZP's car is running 12 psi of boost, right? For the TVS to hit those numbers, it'd mean that he'd be at 18 psi or more, which puts more stress on the internals that, while stronger than the 2.2's aren't as stout as the 2.0's forged bottom end.
This is correct. Auto M62's cannot run larger than a 3" pulley because it simply won't fit. We had to take a mini-sledge to my radiator support to get my M62 to fit with a 3" pulley. I can't imagine trying to wedge a TVS' big ass pulley under that hood.
Some things are futile.
Building the bottome end is going to be a must.
ZZP's car is running 12 psi of boost, right? For the TVS to hit those numbers, it'd mean that he'd be at 18 psi or more, which puts more stress on the internals that, while stronger than the 2.2's aren't as stout as the 2.0's forged bottom end.
there is no way that if you swap a tvs with my old setup and drop to like a 2.6 on the tvs i would gain 150whp over what i had with the 3" on the m62
m62 with 3" pulley-258whp
tvs to go to 400whp= not possible
400wheel is not fesable with a tvs imo
just look at the gains from sc cars, they gain on average from 240ish to about 300, thats a gain of 60 whp, even with a smaller pulley i DOUBT you could gain 150whp from just the swap and a pulley downsize
10-26-2009 | 11:56 AM
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zzp's 2.4 is on 14psi turbo
there is no way that if you swap a tvs with my old setup and drop to like a 2.6 on the tvs i would gain 150whp over what i had with the 3" on the m62
m62 with 3" pulley-258whp
tvs to go to 400whp= not possible
400wheel is not fesable with a tvs imo
just look at the gains from sc cars, they gain on average from 240ish to about 300, thats a gain of 60 whp, even with a smaller pulley i DOUBT you could gain 150whp from just the swap and a pulley downsize
there is no way that if you swap a tvs with my old setup and drop to like a 2.6 on the tvs i would gain 150whp over what i had with the 3" on the m62
m62 with 3" pulley-258whp
tvs to go to 400whp= not possible
400wheel is not fesable with a tvs imo
just look at the gains from sc cars, they gain on average from 240ish to about 300, thats a gain of 60 whp, even with a smaller pulley i DOUBT you could gain 150whp from just the swap and a pulley downsize
10-26-2009 | 12:08 PM
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zzp's 2.4 is on 14psi turbo
there is no way that if you swap a tvs with my old setup and drop to like a 2.6 on the tvs i would gain 150whp over what i had with the 3" on the m62
m62 with 3" pulley-258whp
tvs to go to 400whp= not possible
400wheel is not fesable with a tvs imo
just look at the gains from sc cars, they gain on average from 240ish to about 300, thats a gain of 60 whp, even with a smaller pulley i DOUBT you could gain 150whp from just the swap and a pulley downsize
there is no way that if you swap a tvs with my old setup and drop to like a 2.6 on the tvs i would gain 150whp over what i had with the 3" on the m62
m62 with 3" pulley-258whp
tvs to go to 400whp= not possible
400wheel is not fesable with a tvs imo
just look at the gains from sc cars, they gain on average from 240ish to about 300, thats a gain of 60 whp, even with a smaller pulley i DOUBT you could gain 150whp from just the swap and a pulley downsize
10-26-2009 | 12:12 PM
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to hit 400 whp you'd need a high concentraction of meth or E85 i mean look lsj guys are getting like 30 whp gain off of that ... being the Le5's have higher compression and a bigger displacement you might pull out like 50 or so whp from that .. but however i think it'll be tough to do that safely on a stock engine .. i'd say at the very least i'd say so a thicker head gasket and rods .. then you should be able to pull it off