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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:15 PM
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URGENT: header question

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Can you use the Pacesetter header with a stock down-pipe and GMPP cat-back? Will it give a good bump in power as everyone seems to say you do? This is for a 2.4 also.. Any problems I should look for? They're on eBay.. Would adding a different dp REALLY help that much over the stock one? I'd still end up getting a catted dp anyway..

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:21 PM
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no, it has to be a shorty style header to fit a stock downpipe. you would have to buy the combo pacesetter header/dp
Old 03-19-2009 | 03:23 PM
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****. There's this deal on eBay and I was gonna buy it to get the headers and springs..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy...8#ht_500wt_897

No good?
Old 03-19-2009 | 03:26 PM
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cant go to those websites on a govy computer. you dont want the stock dp anyways.

you have a 2.4, go with the shorty zzp or hahn. you will have better results

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:32 PM
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But see, I want to replace the header and dp both, but I don't want to spend 600 freaking dollars. Plus, I still need a cat system. OBX any good? I saw that they have a descent looking set, but I've only seen the race set so far (no cat)..

Can I buy the Pacesetter header and just buy an add-on dp and add it on? Or does Pacesetter sell their dp individually..?

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:34 PM
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thats just it, you can get the zzp/hahn now and bolt it up to the stock down pipe and get the aftermarket dp later when you get the bones. if you have the money jump on the corsa tour. there are a couple of members selling theres right now. sounds ****** sick.

im about 80percent sure only the pacesetter dp will only bolt up to its own header. the reason why i say this is because i think the bolt pattern would be different than others. mine was with the zzp.

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I mean buy the Pacesetter shorty, then add on a similar sized dp?
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yea, you can get the shorty, didnt know they made one. im not a huge pacesetter fan. heard to many things... you pay for what you get i guess. but yea the shorty should bolt up to the stock dp no problem. you can always ask a vendor that sells them.
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It looks to be just like this one..



Stock dp-able?
Old 03-19-2009 | 03:39 PM
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roll up on this
http://turbosystem.com/ProjectVehicl...baltheader.htm
or
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...=543&catid=155

cant see pics unless uploaded on .net.... govy computer

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:42 PM
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So the ZZP one in the link DOES bolt up to the stock DP..? Can you then add on a different DP later on if you want to as a direct bolt-on? I don't want to have to weld anything.. lol

Any luck with this link..? lol

http://store.newlevelmotorsports.com/papehe20chco2.html

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:43 PM
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your not going to get a good power gain in any good RPM range that would be usefull on a 2.4 with a long tube IMO.


get a shorty header.
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So I should get the Pacesetter one in the link? It will bolt up to my stock DP? So I'm fine with using the stock DP..?

If the Pacesetter one doesn't work because of the lack of the 3 bolt section at the bottom, I noticed the DC one looks like it'd work. Is that a good route too? I know alot of my Honda friends use DC headers..

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Old 03-19-2009 | 03:58 PM
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exhaustdepot.com makes a dp for the pacesetter header
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:00 PM
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Would the DC header with stock dp be a descent option, or should I spend a little more for a full header/dp kit for like 500?
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:00 PM
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i dont think the Pacesetter will bolt up to the stock DP, you have to get one made at exhaustdepot.com
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:04 PM
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why would u want to use the stock dp it is restrictive as hell..if u are gonna change out the header get a combo set up..u will be more satisfied in the long run.
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:09 PM
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The pacesetter does not bolt up, but you can have it welded on. And like was mentioned, exhaustdepot has a downpipe for it. For the price and the small hassle of getting it welded, its seems worth it.
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End of story, the paceshitter mid length header will NOT bolt up to the stock DP unless you cut and weld it.
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So just save up and get a full set up?
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it's up to you, you can buy any shorty header now and buy a dp later, or you can get the paceshitter and get exhaust depots downpipe for it.
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:22 PM
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pace"*******" it is not...

its known to actually have the potential to be one of the best headers for our engines..
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:27 PM
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Last I knew, Area47 had a pacesetter header on his car, and we all know that he's done quite well with it power wise.
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Originally Posted by originaladrian
your not going to get a good power gain in any good RPM range that would be usefull on a 2.4 with a long tube IMO.


get a shorty header.
:picard.....

do you have any idea.. at all.... what a longtube header is made for ... ?

not to mention that there's no long tube heading in this thread.. only a midlength..

shorty...

low and mid .. midlength mid high.. (correctly tuned) long tube.. full range...
Old 03-19-2009 | 04:46 PM
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Elec, shorty is tuned for high end. Just like short runners on an intake manifold.

But of course, there will be gains with any style of aftermarket header as compared to the stock manifold.


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