What The Hell Happened To Hahn?
#77
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The guys that are still interested in turbo but tired of waiting for Hahn to pull their cranial cavity out of their **** orifice, might want to contact Jim at TAG Racecraft. I know he was shopping for an interest before but nothing bloomed. If you guys are serious he might be able to help.
#78
What do you have invested?
Originally Posted by celicacobalt
hahn is actually working on the twincharge kit its not bs its just taking an insane ammout of time
#83
Originally Posted by savior
hanh isnt making one, I said this a while ago and it apparently fell upon deaf ears. Looks like we'll have to depend on garrett or DIY turbos
#84
Here is what I can tell you. This all for the Cobalt.
They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)
They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.
They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.
They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.
Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)
They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.
They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.
They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.
Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
#86
not neccessarily^^^like said the utning and road testing stages play the biggest part in reliability...and im sure with hahn's reputation he wouldnt want to tarnish it by puttin out a POS kit tthat would only a few thousand miles before having problems....
and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
#88
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Originally Posted by mike25
not neccessarily^^^like said the utning and road testing stages play the biggest part in reliability...and im sure with hahn's reputation he wouldnt want to tarnish it by puttin out a POS kit tthat would only a few thousand miles before having problems....
and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
#89
Originally Posted by mike25
and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
Alpha testing is internal to the company and performed by employees of the company. This happens earlier in the development cycle. Later, when a closer-to-finished version of the product is ready, it goes into beta testing. Beta testing is performed by a limited audience outside of the company, perhaps a subset of the intended consumers.
#91
Get over it
Here is what I can tell you. This all for the Cobalt.
They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)
They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.
They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.
They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.
Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)
They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.
They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.
They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.
Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
#92
I am sorry you have been disappointed by them. I am not a Hahn employee in any way. I live the Chicago area and Hahn is close to here. I have visited his shop a few times in the past, spoken with him in person, talk with him on the phone, and write emails back and forth with Bill frequently. We have a press/media type of relationship. I represent the media with regard to the Cobalt tuner community. He is a product producer. I correspond with him about developments within the community, and he provides me with details concerning his progress. Some things I can share, some I can't.
I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.
I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.
#93
I am sorry you have been disappointed by them. I am not a Hahn employee in any way. I live the Chicago area and Hahn is close to here. I have visited his shop a few times in the past, spoken with him in person, talk with him on the phone, and write emails back and forth with Bill frequently. We have a press/media type of relationship. I represent the media with regard to the Cobalt tuner community. He is a product producer. I correspond with him about developments within the community, and he provides me with details concerning his progress. Some things I can share, some I can't.
I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.
I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.
oooo turbo charged 2.4L. I think I just got chub here.
The SECOND you hear something on that bit of juicy, please let us know
#94
There is already some public information available on the Hahn 2.4 Turbo, so what would you like to know? I call tell you that the Beta test 2.4L manual car is on the road and has been for months. There is a thread on this forum concerning it. It will go to market, but I don't know when exactly. There has been a large number of requests for an auto trans version, which has not been ignored, but there is no public information concerning it yet. The Solstice kit is in retail sale already, and has been very successful. In Dyno testing, they achieved 400 WHP without breaking anything, but the retail kit I believe is tuned to around the 250 WHP mark.
#97
Actually, he has a valid point. I've seen ONE video of the Hahn turboed 2.4.... and it was covered up my mostly just music. Show me an undedited video of the car accelerating, and then I'll show Hahn some respect. Till then, Suck It. I'll build my own.
#98
A properly setup soltice or ss na should be able to hang with stage 2 ss/sc but really we dont know until the kits get on the cars. So everyone is in titled to there opinions and I would be happy to be involved in a pool about it....LOL
#99
[QUOTE=SSBOOST;700613]The honda owners already have sleepless nights even with our 2.2's. As for the new SI's I've only seen like 4-5 ever since it's came out. Did you know that the SS/SC has the saem horsepower to weight ratio as a 'Vette? Well it does and a stage 1-2 will kick the **** out of one. [QUOTE]
Well I dont know what to say other than that celicacobalt and PuSha050;700635 said it all and I cant deny the truth that they spoke of.
please please please what hondas are you talking about?
take a k20 and bolt a intake and exhaust and tune and ur right at ss s/c territory.... waht 2.2 cobalt is taking that. or how bout those "POS" EG civics (92-95) wit a b18 vtec. those thinggs weigh anywhere from 2200-2500 lbs. and can easily put out 180whp with 2 mods and a tune.
we do not annihilate hondas and v8's.. for every cobalt that can beat a v8 there are tons of v8s that will kill our fastest cobalt.
evos and wrxs are proven platforms and are very popular. they have been pushed far more farther than any of our cars.
i love my cobalt but its attitudes like this that contribute to the lack of respect our cars see.. when i run wit some1 and they ask about my car, im respectful to them and regarding their car, and they show me it back, usually very pleasantly surprised about what my car can do.
take a k20 and bolt a intake and exhaust and tune and ur right at ss s/c territory.... waht 2.2 cobalt is taking that. or how bout those "POS" EG civics (92-95) wit a b18 vtec. those thinggs weigh anywhere from 2200-2500 lbs. and can easily put out 180whp with 2 mods and a tune.
we do not annihilate hondas and v8's.. for every cobalt that can beat a v8 there are tons of v8s that will kill our fastest cobalt.
evos and wrxs are proven platforms and are very popular. they have been pushed far more farther than any of our cars.
i love my cobalt but its attitudes like this that contribute to the lack of respect our cars see.. when i run wit some1 and they ask about my car, im respectful to them and regarding their car, and they show me it back, usually very pleasantly surprised about what my car can do.
Well I dont know what to say other than that celicacobalt and PuSha050;700635 said it all and I cant deny the truth that they spoke of.
#100
Tcarter be more mature. I would like to have a video of the car to see how the project car looks/sounds/performs. As Ppazz stated, there has been one video which was posted a while ago.
No offense, I am not trying to start an e-fight, but due to kids like you, I've stopped relying on these forums for information because its filled with senseless posts like your previous "Shut up" one
Have a Happy New Years
No offense, I am not trying to start an e-fight, but due to kids like you, I've stopped relying on these forums for information because its filled with senseless posts like your previous "Shut up" one
Have a Happy New Years