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Old 12-26-2006 | 05:49 PM
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hahn is actually working on the twincharge kit its not bs its just taking an insane ammout of time
Old 12-26-2006 | 05:50 PM
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The guys that are still interested in turbo but tired of waiting for Hahn to pull their cranial cavity out of their **** orifice, might want to contact Jim at TAG Racecraft. I know he was shopping for an interest before but nothing bloomed. If you guys are serious he might be able to help.
Old 12-26-2006 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
hahn is actually working on the twincharge kit its not bs its just taking an insane ammout of time
If you read the article that myself and another on here are mentioning from HCI, it said that the kit was available. It claimed 400hp, which was then denied by Brad from Hahn on the phone. The insane "ammout" of time wouldn't be bad if they didn't talk crap about having it ready "next week" everytime I talk to them. Get over it, they can't produce. It's not like I insulted your family or something.
Old 12-26-2006 | 06:06 PM
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lambalt?
I know this if off thread, but he asked.
Old 12-26-2006 | 06:35 PM
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I know this if off thread, but he asked.
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Old 12-26-2006 | 06:38 PM
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Old 12-27-2006 | 05:57 PM
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hanh isnt making one, I said this a while ago and it apparently fell upon deaf ears. Looks like we'll have to depend on garrett or DIY turbos
Old 12-27-2006 | 07:15 PM
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hanh isnt making one, I said this a while ago and it apparently fell upon deaf ears. Looks like we'll have to depend on garrett or DIY turbos
wtf are you smoking...do you have actual proof that this is true?....i dont think tyou do...your just another that is sick of waiting on hahn....there are others on here that claim to talk to hahn on a weekly basis (althought not actually stated thats what it seems to be)....i think halfcent claimed the kit was approaching realease within the next month or 2....
Old 12-27-2006 | 10:18 PM
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Here is what I can tell you. This all for the Cobalt.

They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)

They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.

They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.

They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.

Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
Old 12-27-2006 | 10:58 PM
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I love how peoplehave no concept of time management on things.... Hahn isnt the cobalt shop.... They will go for what they can do quickest and have the best turn around on I would assume?
Old 12-28-2006 | 05:56 PM
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not neccessarily^^^like said the utning and road testing stages play the biggest part in reliability...and im sure with hahn's reputation he wouldnt want to tarnish it by puttin out a POS kit tthat would only a few thousand miles before having problems....

and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
Old 12-28-2006 | 06:06 PM
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Old 12-28-2006 | 06:06 PM
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not neccessarily^^^like said the utning and road testing stages play the biggest part in reliability...and im sure with hahn's reputation he wouldnt want to tarnish it by puttin out a POS kit tthat would only a few thousand miles before having problems....

and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
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Old 12-28-2006 | 06:18 PM
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and also not sure if its been said but what does BETA testing stand for...ive heard it a few times before but im not sure what it means....?
I'm sure it's the same for other products, but in the software industry there are two main types of testing before a product goes to market: alpha testing and beta testing.

Alpha testing is internal to the company and performed by employees of the company. This happens earlier in the development cycle. Later, when a closer-to-finished version of the product is ready, it goes into beta testing. Beta testing is performed by a limited audience outside of the company, perhaps a subset of the intended consumers.
Old 12-28-2006 | 07:05 PM
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oooo....i c...guinea pig....lmao yea thats about what it is...
Old 12-29-2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcent
Here is what I can tell you. This all for the Cobalt.

They have a kit for the 2.2 manual, but it has tuning issues. They will not go to market with it unless they can solve that problem. They have not given up hope, and there is still hope (see SCTflash.com)

They have a kit for the 2.4 manual. There is a thread on this site about it. It is in BETA road test right now. It will go to market.

They can make the kits to work for the auto cars, but there are two issues. First, the auto cars engines are actually mounted in a slightly different location. The charge piping would have to be a different kit. Second, the trans tuning needs to accompany the kit. Be patient with this one, trust me.

They have twin charge and turbo-only kits for the LSJ. They are described on the Hahn site. They are will go market. As above be patient.

Right now, the only guys that should be at all concerned about NOT being able to get a Hahn kit for their Cobalt are the 2.2L guys. But don't be too concerned.
I don't know who you've been talking to at Hahn but I'm one of the people who does call and check the progress of things only to be dissappointed with what I hear. Don't go off of what you read on this forum or what you see on the site. All I've been hearing is a lot of talk with no results. As mentioned before, each time I've called I've gotten, "It's in it's final stages of tuning and should be available next week." After a while you just get to the point of, "Yeah whatever buddy". Unless you actually work for Hahn and have eyewitnessed something, I wouldn't be so Pro-Hahn. Get over it, they can't produce, and the claims they gave me about the twincharging were nothing but a letdown.
Old 12-29-2006 | 03:07 PM
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I am sorry you have been disappointed by them. I am not a Hahn employee in any way. I live the Chicago area and Hahn is close to here. I have visited his shop a few times in the past, spoken with him in person, talk with him on the phone, and write emails back and forth with Bill frequently. We have a press/media type of relationship. I represent the media with regard to the Cobalt tuner community. He is a product producer. I correspond with him about developments within the community, and he provides me with details concerning his progress. Some things I can share, some I can't.

I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.
Old 12-29-2006 | 03:13 PM
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I am sorry you have been disappointed by them. I am not a Hahn employee in any way. I live the Chicago area and Hahn is close to here. I have visited his shop a few times in the past, spoken with him in person, talk with him on the phone, and write emails back and forth with Bill frequently. We have a press/media type of relationship. I represent the media with regard to the Cobalt tuner community. He is a product producer. I correspond with him about developments within the community, and he provides me with details concerning his progress. Some things I can share, some I can't.

I originally got in touch with Bill for my own car. I am interested in turbocharging my Cobalt when it becomes available. So that's where I started.

oooo turbo charged 2.4L. I think I just got chub here.
The SECOND you hear something on that bit of juicy, please let us know
Old 12-29-2006 | 03:46 PM
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There is already some public information available on the Hahn 2.4 Turbo, so what would you like to know? I call tell you that the Beta test 2.4L manual car is on the road and has been for months. There is a thread on this forum concerning it. It will go to market, but I don't know when exactly. There has been a large number of requests for an auto trans version, which has not been ignored, but there is no public information concerning it yet. The Solstice kit is in retail sale already, and has been very successful. In Dyno testing, they achieved 400 WHP without breaking anything, but the retail kit I believe is tuned to around the 250 WHP mark.
Old 12-30-2006 | 07:50 PM
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give us a recent video of the turbo'd car and I'll believe you
Old 12-30-2006 | 11:18 PM
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Old 12-31-2006 | 03:12 AM
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Savior....shut up.
Actually, he has a valid point. I've seen ONE video of the Hahn turboed 2.4.... and it was covered up my mostly just music. Show me an undedited video of the car accelerating, and then I'll show Hahn some respect. Till then, Suck It. I'll build my own.
Old 12-31-2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mike25
well with the new year approaching rapidly i cant wait to see what hahn has for us....i guess i will go turbo afterall...i guess a turbod balt will hang with a ss/sc..who knows it will def. be interesting...well merry christmas
Originally Posted by celicacobalt
a turbo 2.4 will most likely hang with a slightly modded ss-sc imo
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It would kill a SS/SC, think about it. More hp comes from turbos and our engine is bigger to start with, I think it would be the equivalent of a Stage 2 on a SS/SC if not better.
Originally Posted by slvrbalt
yeah probably hang side by side with a stage 2 ss/sc and possibly edge him out
Originally Posted by mike25
lol guys dont comem in here saying we are dreaming about power....were just curious...
Well the obvious thing is we cant really say what will happen. till we get them side by side. I can tell you this. When I was stock a sotice 2.4 stayed with me in second gear until 4500rpm then I started to pull slightly and at 5200RPM I pulled big time.

A properly setup soltice or ss na should be able to hang with stage 2 ss/sc but really we dont know until the kits get on the cars. So everyone is in titled to there opinions and I would be happy to be involved in a pool about it....LOL
Old 12-31-2006 | 11:37 AM
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[QUOTE=SSBOOST;700613]The honda owners already have sleepless nights even with our 2.2's. As for the new SI's I've only seen like 4-5 ever since it's came out. Did you know that the SS/SC has the saem horsepower to weight ratio as a 'Vette? Well it does and a stage 1-2 will kick the **** out of one. [QUOTE]
Originally Posted by PuSha050
please please please what hondas are you talking about?
take a k20 and bolt a intake and exhaust and tune and ur right at ss s/c territory.... waht 2.2 cobalt is taking that. or how bout those "POS" EG civics (92-95) wit a b18 vtec. those thinggs weigh anywhere from 2200-2500 lbs. and can easily put out 180whp with 2 mods and a tune.

we do not annihilate hondas and v8's.. for every cobalt that can beat a v8 there are tons of v8s that will kill our fastest cobalt.

evos and wrxs are proven platforms and are very popular. they have been pushed far more farther than any of our cars.

i love my cobalt but its attitudes like this that contribute to the lack of respect our cars see.. when i run wit some1 and they ask about my car, im respectful to them and regarding their car, and they show me it back, usually very pleasantly surprised about what my car can do.

Originally Posted by celicacobalt
for us to be at corvette territory it would take approxamately 320whp
Well I dont know what to say other than that celicacobalt and PuSha050;700635 said it all and I cant deny the truth that they spoke of.
Old 12-31-2006 | 03:33 PM
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Tcarter be more mature. I would like to have a video of the car to see how the project car looks/sounds/performs. As Ppazz stated, there has been one video which was posted a while ago.

No offense, I am not trying to start an e-fight, but due to kids like you, I've stopped relying on these forums for information because its filled with senseless posts like your previous "Shut up" one

Have a Happy New Years


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