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Old 04-03-2011 | 02:11 PM
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GF, upon watching vid says: Wow, sounds so much better on video! FWIF...


YouTube - 2.4L Cobalt SC w/ZZP Header and 3" ZZP exhaust
Old 04-03-2011 | 03:03 PM
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Have it, full ZZP header w/cat and 3" resonated exhaust.

Sounds like ****, sorry to say.

But, I'm older (36) and wasn't looking for a fart can sound...liked the stock exhaust with M62 so much better.

NOW, could be tuning issues...HPTuners came with my ZZP order so I'm starting to log and learn and have yet another ZZP order on the way (LS4 TB, 60# injectors, Stage2 pulley (3.1") and AEM WB) so I'm hoping in time to improve performance and sound quality as well.
We've got a new resonator about to become available. I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Maybe you could do a before after video?
Old 04-03-2011 | 03:55 PM
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If it quiets things down Zooomer I'd likely buy it. Idle is fine, WOT sounds ok (alright, better than ok going by the vid I just posted )....just that middle ground of daily driving that is too loud for what little is happening between speed and RPM.
Old 04-03-2011 | 04:22 PM
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Mark it doesnt sound that bad, definately a performance gain there. The only thing you could do to quiet it down is to change out the muffler for a dynomax super turbo muffler.
Old 04-03-2011 | 06:48 PM
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Mark it doesnt sound that bad, definately a performance gain there. The only thing you could do to quiet it down is to change out the muffler for a dynomax super turbo muffler.
A new resonator could quiet it down over the one that came on the catback. In the eclipse world a v6 with headers and a catback is one of the raspiest cars ive ever heard. But on those a hushpower resonator takes away almost all the rasp and makes them almost sound like a nissna vq35.


Without a resonator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PctP7NPSu1E
with a resonator
YouTube - Eclipse RPW Header + Hushpower II resonator + Invidia Catback

ah the power of a resonator

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Old 04-03-2011 | 06:52 PM
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cordia that eclipse sounds soo good. Can you get those hush power resonator to fit a cobalt or g5?
Old 04-03-2011 | 06:53 PM
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cordia that eclipse sounds soo good. Can you get those hush power resonator to fit a cobalt or g5?
Should be able to. The exhaust room on the eclipse is similar to the cobalts.
Old 04-04-2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
GF, upon watching vid says: Wow, sounds so much better on video! FWIF...


YouTube - 2.4L Cobalt SC w/ZZP Header and 3" ZZP exhaust
MINE DOESNT SOUND NOTHING LIKE THAT! IDC if mine sounds loud but damn it sounds ricey... im gonna get my car back wednesday and then take a video then.

would any muffler fit this exhaust? cause its 3"
Old 04-04-2011 | 09:20 AM
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Isnt this a 3"? ive heard that thats too big tor a N/A engine. im running a 2.5 catback.
i was looking to do the upper end of my exaust too.
Old 04-04-2011 | 09:29 AM
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ya it is... but ottawa and I are both boosting. so that is why we went 3". Its just this thing is to ricey! if it sounded like ottawa I wouldnt be complaining but maybe its sounds like that cause his windows are up...
Old 04-04-2011 | 11:57 AM
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So what should I go with then. I'm staying na
Old 04-04-2011 | 12:07 PM
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Stay far away from 3" then, 2.5 is plenty for NA.

The ZZP Header bolt-in option connects to most 2.5 cat-back setups, you'll be pleased with their header, very sexy unit.
Old 04-04-2011 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
Stay far away from 3" then, 2.5 is plenty for NA.
Yes. 2.5!!! if u are a 2.4 then ur stock exhaust is good man just change the muffler. Honestly I regret this stupid ricey sound! its not the 3 exhaust but the muffler. So just go with a different muffler.

Hey ottawa when u gonna get that new muffler? Cause Idk if I can get a universal muffler or if it has to be a certain size... let me know man im embarrased to even drive the car haha.
Old 04-05-2011 | 09:23 AM
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Alright I figured this out... yesterday I got my car back and tuned and ready to go! So I actually got to gun it. alright so this is whats up.... the zzp sounds great a low rpms and when u go WOT but from 3-4K rpms that ricey sound makes its way out... but its really noticeable when u are trying to speed up when u get into that rpm range... its sounds bad but at wot ur good and low rpms... What I do to avoid that high pitch ricey noise is to gradually go up in speed.... later I will get some vids of the car and its very loud... I dont mind that one bit. so overall it isnt as bad also it sounds worse in the car then outside. ottawa have someone else drive it and have them go WOT u might change ur mind... like I said it sound like a fart can btw those rpms then u cant notice... well I cant
Old 04-05-2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by manny45
Alright I figured this out... yesterday I got my car back and tuned and ready to go! So I actually got to gun it. alright so this is whats up.... the zzp sounds great a low rpms and when u go WOT but from 3-4K rpms that ricey sound makes its way out... but its really noticeable when u are trying to speed up when u get into that rpm range... its sounds bad but at wot ur good and low rpms... What I do to avoid that high pitch ricey noise is to gradually go up in speed.... later I will get some vids of the car and its very loud... I dont mind that one bit. so overall it isnt as bad also it sounds worse in the car then outside. ottawa have someone else drive it and have them go WOT u might change ur mind... like I said it sound like a fart can btw those rpms then u cant notice... well I cant
Honestly I think either zzps new resonator or one like the hush power will help calm that sound.
Old 04-05-2011 | 12:38 PM
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honestly I can live with it. I rarely hit that rpm in dd but when I do i just left off and ease it down. but wot is alrigh ur video of the eclipse it does have a deeper tone to it but im ok with it I was drivin my friends celica while he drove mine and it was alright with me. I will get u vids cordia... urs will sound deeper as u arent going 3". Some part of me wishes i did but overall im ok.
Old 04-05-2011 | 12:41 PM
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i have to hear it now manny. and you got to take me for a drive
Old 04-05-2011 | 12:44 PM
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i have to hear it now manny. and you got to take me for a drive
ya for sure! now that I can step on it sounds alot better. Like I said that 3K -4K rpms sounds raspy but other then that its all good! next meet man u can ride with
Old 04-05-2011 | 12:51 PM
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ok cool
Old 04-05-2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by manny45
honestly I can live with it. I rarely hit that rpm in dd but when I do i just left off and ease it down. but wot is alrigh ur video of the eclipse it does have a deeper tone to it but im ok with it I was drivin my friends celica while he drove mine and it was alright with me. I will get u vids cordia... urs will sound deeper as u arent going 3". Some part of me wishes i did but overall im ok.
Well typically larger exhausts sound a bit deeper. But will look forward to some videos. Problem for me is the slp isnt a resonated exhaust. So it could be very loud and raspy. Guess we will see come end of may.
Old 04-05-2011 | 01:12 PM
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Ya it has a low tone and low rpm I love it! I will get vids today
Old 04-05-2011 | 01:46 PM
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HA! I don't like to knock ZZP given the $$$ I've spent with them so far on my balt but I am glad I'm not the only one who thinks it could sound much, much better. Manny, I'm going to try dynomax super turbo muffler very soon...keep you posted if you don't beat me to it.
dont bother with it, its fiberglass packed and will just blow out and get loud


same muffler(design wise) but with SS packing

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Old 04-05-2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by manny45
Yes. 2.5!!! if u are a 2.4 then ur stock exhaust is good man just change the muffler. Honestly I regret this stupid ricey sound! its not the 3 exhaust but the muffler. So just go with a different muffler.

Hey ottawa when u gonna get that new muffler? Cause Idk if I can get a universal muffler or if it has to be a certain size... let me know man im embarrased to even drive the car haha.
I dont have a stock exaust i have a 2.5" corsa catback
Old 04-05-2011 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaMark
Stay far away from 3" then, 2.5 is plenty for NA.

The ZZP Header bolt-in option connects to most 2.5 cat-back setups, you'll be pleased with their header, very sexy unit.
They dont make the longtube header in 2.5"
Old 04-05-2011 | 02:42 PM
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So unless some one can post a link for a 2.5" header/DP combo than I have to firsr make a decision between

2.5"
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1198&catid=155

or 3"
http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1199&catid=155

after that what header should i use???

I AM NOT GOING TURBO OR SUPERCHARGED


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