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Old 12-16-2009, 07:16 PM
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What methanol nozzle size?

I am shooting for 340whp with a TVS w/ 2.7, 80lbers, and meth. what size nozzle would suit me best? i bought a trunk mount system from AIS, and they sent me a 10gph nozzle. the nozzle says AI10 on it.

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I'm running a Devels own 5gph nozzle on a TVS w/ 2.9. It has 23* timing and 0 knock.
I would imagine a 10gph nozzle is overkill.
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alright. ill get ahold of AIS and try to trade for the 5gph. thats what they said they sent me but thats obviously not the case
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Go with a 7 gph and you will be just peachy.
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AIS is claiming that a 14gph nozzle is best for our style superchargers and that they require twice the jetting of a turbo. Here is a link that they sent me of them proving this on an Acura RSX forum. read from page 38 til the end.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...t=meth&page=38

ive just never heard of a cobalt running more than a 7gph nozzle? lemme know what you guys think
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Originally Posted by harryresh
AIS is claiming that a 14gph nozzle is best for our style superchargers and that they require twice the jetting of a turbo. Here is a link that they sent me of them proving this on an Acura RSX forum. read from page 38 til the end.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...t=meth&page=38

ive just never heard of a cobalt running more than a 7gph nozzle? lemme know what you guys think

Hi Harry,

One thing you have to consider is most guys simply aren't making as much power as you. You listed yourself as 340 WHP and running 25 psi with your harrop. The common Cobalt is running the stock Eaton at 17-18 psi making only 270-280 at the tires. If you had this I would set you up with a 7 GPH nozzle to run a 50/50 mix. Hope this helps explain things better.

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The key to meth injection is the proper size nozzle. Not just shoving a large nozzle in everything.

Nice nozzzles AIS Where you get them from ? Or better yet who supplier did go behind there back and then by them through "looks other way"
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i'm running a 2.8 eaton. 90/10 @ 10gph. 273whp 250wtrq
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hmmm sub'd lol
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10GPH?! Good god.

7GPH is all you'll need man.
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well when i'm no where near close to 25* of timing and still pushing 273 out of an eaton without the need to spend money on gauges cause i have no need to look at my iat's or other parameters because i know everything is working fine....10gph does the job.
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I'm on the 5gph nozzle with the TVS and 3.1 pulley.

70/30 mix holding 25.5* of timing no knock.
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tell ya what. i'll get the tvs on my car with the 3.1 and whatever injectors you had. but i won't change my meth mix. and we'll see who makes more power
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Originally Posted by devilsown
The key to meth injection is the proper size nozzle. Not just shoving a large nozzle in everything.

Nice nozzzles AIS Where you get them from ? Or better yet who supplier did go behind there back and then by them through "looks other way"
This looks really..... professional coming from a supporting vendor

Take it to PM

If you feel the need to contribute, why not provide some facts to back up your statement, instead of vendor bashing.

Originally Posted by harryresh
I am shooting for 340whp with a TVS w/ 2.7, 80lbers, and meth. what size nozzle would suit me best? i bought a trunk mount system from AIS, and they sent me a 10gph nozzle. the nozzle says AI10 on it.

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Which AIS pump you running? the 150 or 250 psi?

The AI10 seems ideal for the amount of air you plan on pushing, though running dual 7gphs will simply provide more meth and water. Do you want bare minimum or the reassurance that your always getting enough water/meth to safely push your motor at those levels.

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i have the 250psi pump and they sent me the 10gph
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Your going to have to pull way to much fuel out to make a 10gph nozzle work right. These motors are to small for that amount of injection. I feel you would run better if you put in a smaller nozzle. The goal to water methanol inject is to spray enough to cool your intake air temps down. Not to inject so much that you risk damaging you motor.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
tell ya what. i'll get the tvs on my car with the 3.1 and whatever injectors you had. but i won't change my meth mix. and we'll see who makes more power
300/256

3" catless downpipe
2.5" exhaust
STOCK exhaust manifold
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20* of timing(at time of dyno)
Intake.
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i can put the stock exhaust manifold back on if you'ld like. i only need 7 more ftlbs though to have you on torque lol. although i have a catted exhaust so maybe the header will stay
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how about i step into this thread. someone who has been there and done that.

5gph is enough for your goal. depending on your meth to water mixture.
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i wanted to mix 50/50
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5gph to a 7gph should do just fine...
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i think i'm gonna step up to dual 10gph's and switch to c16 injection
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Figured I'd share... Was out maf tuning... 12* of spark is boring

m62 on a 2.6
stock exhaust manifold
3" high flow dp
2.5" custom magnaflow catback
k&n CAI
ported supercharger & intake mani
Dual 7gph 50/50 mixture - pre blower & into the intake manifold. (150 psi pump, AIS trunk mount kit)
Boosting 229 kpa(18.5 psi) @ 7000

No flooding here... Pull started @ 3000 rpm


-=DISCLAIMER=- What your seeing is not real -=DISCLAIMER=-

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