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Old 02-11-2008 | 11:36 AM
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yup
more lighting in the ditches, less light towards oncoming traffic.

if theres any other purpose for it other than that....and ease of aiming....i havent heard of it yet..
Old 02-11-2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMo84
im surprised some of the other guys havent chimed in yet seeing as they seem to know so much about projectors and how they work...im curious to find out too...that was just my guess but i could be wrong
I've given up trying to deal with your stupidity.... thus, /this thread.
If someone wants to start a new thread, I'm sure many of us HID guys would be pleased to help out.
Old 02-11-2008 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kqst786
I would love to have projectors on mine however i cant afford that right now nor do i have the knowledge maybe when i get the money i can have someone make me a set...i have 8k hids in mine now...thought id try out some 12k bulbs so went on ebay and got some,put them in and they were ****** hot pink!! So gay lol they had to have sent the wrong bulbs or something i felt like a damn flower going down the road so i put my 8k's back in lol...for the ppl who can do a retrofit whats a ballpark figure of what everything would cost including labor?
So if you don't have the money for projectors why would you waste the money on regular HIDs that aren't what you want, can be dangerous, and look worse then what you want? Why not just save the money up and get projectors instead of dropping x amount on regular HIDs?

I've never under stood this philosophy.
Old 02-11-2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
I've given up trying to deal with your stupidity.... thus, /this thread.
If someone wants to start a new thread, I'm sure many of us HID guys would be pleased to help out.

uhm...ok?

so much for anyone ending the rant and asking a valid question then lol

and so much for someone having their own opinion no matter how much u disagree with it

Originally Posted by an0malous
yup
more lighting in the ditches, less light towards oncoming traffic.

if theres any other purpose for it other than that....and ease of aiming....i havent heard of it yet..
i figured as much...how does it make it easier to aim??

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Old 02-11-2008 | 06:15 PM
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the Z is the center of the beam.

it helps avoid crosseyed headlights.
Old 02-11-2008 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
the Z is the center of the beam.

it helps avoid crosseyed headlights.
makes sense...halogen reflectors are aimed the same way right? farther up on the right and lower on the left??
Old 02-11-2008 | 06:22 PM
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I don't think that is the reasoning behind it because my projectors, the left side of both beams are slightly lower than the right. It is something dealing with the inside of the projector itself and how it was built. For example, the HID's you see in Nissan that change colors, that is not the bulb, it is a metal piece in the lense. If you bend the lense you can create different colors in the top of the beam. But people don't know that so they go out and buy these rediculously high K HID's thinking that is what it is. But anyway, my point is, is I think it has something to do with how they are actually built inside and not done for a reason.
The projectors are designed that way. Its not an aiming thing. The left projector actually is designed so that it has that step up on its right side. The right side projector has that step down on its left side.

The change in color of the light is due to the shape of the cut-off. Mercury (who's a wiz with this stuff and absent from this whole discussion) actually gave his cut-offs a slight bend that created a purple hue at the stop of the light beams. The rest stayed a nice bluish-white.

Originally Posted by MikeyMo84
makes sense...halogen reflectors are aimed the same way right? farther up on the right and lower on the left??
supposed to be.

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Old 02-11-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by smartdude24
ROFL, by that post alone shows you have no idea what you are talking about, I mean if you don't even know that... it shows you've done absolutely no research... not very surprising you want to stick 30k HIDs in a stock halogen reflector. And you will argue till you are blue in the face that you are right
get your head out of your ass

ps. ibtl
someone doesnt know how to read...please tell me where i ever said i wanted to put 30ks in my car??

smart dude indeed

i have 6k's and im perfectly ok with it
Old 02-11-2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMo84
someone doesnt know how to read...please tell me where i ever said i wanted to put 30ks in my car??

i have 6k's and im perfectly ok with it
he just confused you and the OP. There's a lotta crap to read in this thread.
Old 02-11-2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ BadBlackSS
supposed to be.
true...although i gotta say way to many cars around here with misaimed halogens

Originally Posted by CJ BadBlackSS
he just confused you and the OP. There's a lotta crap to read in this thread.
well he calls himself smartdude....

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Old 02-11-2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IMADreamer
So if you don't have the money for projectors why would you waste the money on regular HIDs that aren't what you want, can be dangerous, and look worse then what you want? Why not just save the money up and get projectors instead of dropping x amount on regular HIDs?

I've never under stood this philosophy.

Well i already had the hid's in my gtp and took them out when i traded it in and put them in the cobalt they're both 9007 bulbs and when i had bought the hid's for the gtp i never saw anybody retrofit projectors so i really had no clue about it yet otherwise i wouldve just saved for projectors
Old 02-11-2008 | 09:22 PM
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well if anyone is wanting to do a retrofit i have a pair of E55 (mercury recommended) bi-xenon projectors with chrome shrouds and D2S bulbs. Make me an offer. I just wanna get rid of them.
Old 02-11-2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
yup
more lighting in the ditches, less light towards oncoming traffic.

if theres any other purpose for it other than that....and ease of aiming....i havent heard of it yet..
Nope , theres no other purpose at all . The Z-pattern throws all the light in the lane your driving in and the right side of the road . The beam cutoff is shorter in the left lane for obvious reasons . In countries that drive on the left side the Z is backwards , so make sure whenever u buy a projector its for a left hand drive car . Seems obvious ...but , Ive seen people try to sell projectors from a left hand drive in the US before .

Color was brought up earlier .....the color flicker is just a natural result of the beam passing over the sheild and the lens , while u can mod the sheild for more color ....OEM's dont . The sheild is just there to create the beam pattern not the color .
Old 02-11-2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyMo84
well he calls himself smartdude....
Pre-med... so I have reason to do so

excuse me if I didn't want to read through 12 pages of nonsensical bickering and got you confused with the OP... which by the way you are talking isn't that far of a stretch
Old 02-12-2008 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CJ BadBlackSS
The change in color of the light is due to the shape of the cut-off. Mercury (who's a wiz with this stuff and absent from this whole discussion) actually gave his cut-offs a slight bend that created a purple hue at the stop of the light beams. The rest stayed a nice bluish-white.

Yea, that's the metal piece I was talking about. But as for my reasoning on the other thing I said about the "kink" or w/e you want to call it. I saw a Lexus and the cutoff line for the car was just a straight across line. No kinks at all.(unless I just missed it somewhere) Also, the Evo IX HID projectors have a very very small kink in theirs. But anyway, thanks for clearing everything up.
Old 02-12-2008 | 01:01 AM
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Theres small differences between all the maintstream projectors with the z or kink . My Euro E55 cut off is a bit odd , the US version E55 is shielded a bit different and is much sharper .

Heres my cut off as requested earlier . The combo of a blurry pic and the car being too close to wall doesnt make for a good representation . Its the only one I have though :shrug:

Old 02-12-2008 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
Theres small differences between all the maintstream projectors with the z or kink . My Euro E55 cut off is a bit odd , the US version E55 is shielded a bit different and is much sharper .

Heres my cut off as requested earlier . The combo of a blurry pic and the car being too close to wall doesnt make for a good representation . Its the only one I have though :shrug:

That's cool, thanks for the post of the pic. Those cutoffs look better than the Projectors I have. lol.
Old 02-12-2008 | 03:23 AM
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Pre-med... so I have reason to do so

excuse me if I didn't want to read through 12 pages of nonsensical bickering and got you confused with the OP... which by the way you are talking isn't that far of a stretch
lol ur forgiven cuz that was some crazy ****...and for the record id never advocate going any higher than maybe 8000k...anything more is just a waste....The 6ks in my car car look pretty close to OEM which is also why i left the halogen bulbs in the fog lights...cuz whens the last time u saw HID fog lights on a car from the factory?
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ok lol, nice to clear that up

ya you should totally get fog projectors and throw some 3000k in there
Old 02-12-2008 | 12:51 PM
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ok lol, nice to clear that up

ya you should totally get fog projectors and throw some 3000k in there
the fogs are already projectors...

3000k are the yellow ones??
Old 02-12-2008 | 01:05 PM
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ok lol, nice to clear that up

ya you should totally get fog projectors and throw some 3000k in there
The stock fog projectors work fine. They have a nicely designed cut off in them.
The 3000k's are actually a 4300K with a yellow filter in the bulb. They don't sacrifice light, like other filtered bulbs though.

I'll probably add this to the sticky, but here is a comparison of 4100/4300k bulbs to 3000k bulbs in the fog.

Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr@HIDPlanet

A picture showing the fog thickness...


4100k...


3000k...


4100k...


3000k...

Old 02-12-2008 | 01:22 PM
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The stock fog projectors work fine. They have a nicely designed cut off in them.
The 3000k's are actually a 4300K with a yellow filter in the bulb. They don't sacrifice light, like other filtered bulbs though.

I'll probably add this to the sticky, but here is a comparison of 4100/4300k bulbs to 3000k bulbs in the fog.
i was thinking about doing that along with a cobalt trunk lid swap to get the lexus IS300 look...hmm decisions
Old 02-12-2008 | 01:26 PM
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i was thinking about doing that along with a cobalt trunk lid swap to get the lexus IS300 look...hmm decisions
Check into the dimensions before attempting that one...
I'm not sure if they were BS-ing or not, but someone had mentioned in another thread that the Cobalt and G5 trunks were a bit different on the bottom.

Better safe than sorry.... and out the cash...
Old 02-12-2008 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Check into the dimensions before attempting that one...
I'm not sure if they were BS-ing or not, but someone had mentioned in another thread that the Cobalt and G5 trunks were a bit different on the bottom.

Better safe than sorry.... and out the cash...






looks the same to me??

i also wanna swap on the rear lip with the mesh inserts cuz they basically match the front grille

ugh so many mods so little time and money
Old 02-12-2008 | 01:38 PM
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wow. i cant believe i went through 13 pages of this...



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