Custom Tuning Results/Writeup!!
10-06-2006, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
hey my car put down 242whp with just the airbox mod... and a friends put down 232 bone stock so anything is possible
10-06-2006, 10:51 AM
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I just want to thank Paul for putting an amazing tune on to my car. The car feels like an entirely new beast. The car will now easily break the tire free in first and second gear, and even has the hp and torque to do so from a second gear roll. In addition, as you can see from the dyno graphs, the thing pulls very hard right up to 7000rpm.
I was also very impressed with both the shop and the professionalism of Paul. We worked for over 5 hours on my vehicle doing R&D, and making sure everything was perfect. There were a few times where the A/F was close but Paul would go back and make it perfect. I was also impressed by the fact that Paul insisted on having my car 100% stock to write his tune, and then go back and make the necessary changes once the CAI was added.
Overall, I am 100% satisfied with this tune. I was amazed at Paul's ability to correct the air fuel ratio and with the gains he was able to achieve, a testament to his ability as a tuner.
I was also very impressed with both the shop and the professionalism of Paul. We worked for over 5 hours on my vehicle doing R&D, and making sure everything was perfect. There were a few times where the A/F was close but Paul would go back and make it perfect. I was also impressed by the fact that Paul insisted on having my car 100% stock to write his tune, and then go back and make the necessary changes once the CAI was added.
Overall, I am 100% satisfied with this tune. I was amazed at Paul's ability to correct the air fuel ratio and with the gains he was able to achieve, a testament to his ability as a tuner.
10-06-2006, 10:59 AM
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I agree. By the time I got out there you'd be getting off work and I work evenings from sunday night till friday morning. That and I would need to know for sure that you could work with an 07 before I made a nine hour trip..lol
10-06-2006, 11:06 AM
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You cant change between SAE and STD on a mustang dyno.
These are dynojet converted numbers on our MD, which have proven hundreds of times to be within 5hp of an actual dynojet.
I said at the first post, the numbers may be a bit high, but he gains are gains....I do not really care who has been doing what for how long. We use a totally different tuning method than everyone else.
Unless my tach sensor is off, those are accurate rpm readings.
These are dynojet converted numbers on our MD, which have proven hundreds of times to be within 5hp of an actual dynojet.
I said at the first post, the numbers may be a bit high, but he gains are gains....I do not really care who has been doing what for how long. We use a totally different tuning method than everyone else.
Unless my tach sensor is off, those are accurate rpm readings.
10-06-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mase
of course, I would get 270HP if I didn't use SAE parameters on the dyno. You basically can make any power you want on the dyno by changing the parameters.
I took the highest stock numbers .vs the highest tuned/cai numbers. 3-5 pulls were made to check consistancy, make sure temperatures were within the same perameters
10-06-2006, 11:15 AM
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With the stock tune, there was a 1HP difference between the first and second pulls, the second being the highest. The 3rd pull actually lost about 15+whp
With our tune, there was a 1-2whp difference on 4-5 back to back pulls. With our tune the air fuel is consistant, and it runs a lot colder
With our tune, there was a 1-2whp difference on 4-5 back to back pulls. With our tune the air fuel is consistant, and it runs a lot colder
10-06-2006, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mase
also a bond stock SS/SC doesn't have a 7000rpm limiter??
10-06-2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mase
great numbers....but kinda hard to believe since intense, zzp, etc. have been working with our cars for a while now and haven't seen anything like this. Do you mind posting the log files from HP Scanner?
Intense Stage1 only make 235HP and you made 244HP, hmmm?
Intense Stage1 only make 235HP and you made 244HP, hmmm?
We all know there can be a big variance of stock numbers.....I am simply posting my GAINS..take the final numbers for what you want.
I will not post my logs or my tuning files...sorry
10-06-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mase
of course, I would get 270HP if I didn't use SAE parameters on the dyno. You basically can make any power you want on the dyno by changing the parameters.
There were no changes to the Dyno parameters during any of the testing. As Paul mentioned the dyno may have been out of calibration but the point is the gains. Look at the base numbers compared to the final numbers.
The dyno was consistent for the pulls with variations of maybe 1-2 hp.
Even if the numbers are a bit high, the gains are relaible.
10-06-2006, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by meister
Come by and we will put the same car on the dyno in front of as many people as you wish stock versus the tune, then with the air box and you will see no dyno numbers were fudged.
I took the highest stock numbers .vs the highest tuned/cai numbers. 3-5 pulls were made to check consistancy, make sure temperatures were within the same perameters
I took the highest stock numbers .vs the highest tuned/cai numbers. 3-5 pulls were made to check consistancy, make sure temperatures were within the same perameters
how about you come to TAG and we'll put the car on the dyno as our results have been closer to dyno runs from all over North America.
10-06-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by meister
Look at the graph. Let off at redline, which is 6500. max power was at redline of 6500.
10-06-2006, 11:43 AM
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I let off at 6500, the car did not go PAST 6500, which is redline. It LOOKS like it carries past that on the drop down as that is how the MD software draws the lines
I am not trying to post the final numbers so I could care less about what it makes total on someone else's dyno. I am posting the gains. over 12rwhp with just a tune.
I am not trying to post the final numbers so I could care less about what it makes total on someone else's dyno. I am posting the gains. over 12rwhp with just a tune.
10-06-2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by truray4
There were no changes to the Dyno parameters during any of the testing. As Paul mentioned the dyno may have been out of calibration but the point is the gains. Look at the base numbers compared to the final numbers.
The dyno was consistent for the pulls with variations of maybe 1-2 hp.
Even if the numbers are a bit high, the gains are relaible.
The dyno was consistent for the pulls with variations of maybe 1-2 hp.
Even if the numbers are a bit high, the gains are relaible.
10-06-2006, 11:46 AM
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There was 0 knock during a stock pull with the 94 in the tank and colder plugs and 0 knock with my tune.
I am not trying to claim we make the higest hp, I am simply showing the gains. The dyno is accurate, but I have not done enough STOCK cobalts to verify how accurate this car is. Everyone has seen huge differences in stock trim
I am not trying to claim we make the higest hp, I am simply showing the gains. The dyno is accurate, but I have not done enough STOCK cobalts to verify how accurate this car is. Everyone has seen huge differences in stock trim
10-06-2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by truray4
There were no changes to the Dyno parameters during any of the testing. As Paul mentioned the dyno may have been out of calibration but the point is the gains. Look at the base numbers compared to the final numbers.
The dyno was consistent for the pulls with variations of maybe 1-2 hp.
Even if the numbers are a bit high, the gains are relaible.
The dyno was consistent for the pulls with variations of maybe 1-2 hp.
Even if the numbers are a bit high, the gains are relaible.