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Old 10-19-2014, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KMO43
If you turn off your meth there will be no voltage going to the pump therefor the failsafe will not be active



What the failsafe is looking for is that the pump is getting voltage. So for you with no box just a pressure switch if the pump seizes when not being used and you hit boost the pressure switch sends voltage to the pump but the pump doesn't move so no flow. The failsafe gauge sees that there is voltage and no flow so it trips the error mode you have setup. But if the failsafe sees no voltage there is no failsafe active
So what if the controller burns out or looses power? Then there won't ever be voltage to anything , therefore no failsafe? If that's how it works they need to do some improvements to this system. Can easily be fixed with another wastegate solinoid though.
Old 10-20-2014, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Ah ok gotcha. So if the relay to my meth kit failed the fail safe wouldn't trip. Gay haha.
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So what if the controller burns out or looses power? Then there won't ever be voltage to anything , therefore no failsafe? If that's how it works they need to do some improvements to this system. Can easily be fixed with another wastegate solinoid though.
Well nothing's perfect
Old 10-20-2014, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KMO43
Well nothing's perfect
It would be so simple to make it perfect though.
Old 10-20-2014, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj77
It would be so simple to make it perfect though.
I don't think another solenoid is going to fix it I think you'll have drivability issues spool problems.

I think you're way over thinking this it doesn't even sound like you'll have a problem if it fails
Old 10-20-2014, 05:05 PM
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There's a much greater chance of my relay failing than your controller box. Perhaps I should look in to a stage 2 kit.
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
There's a much greater chance of my relay failing than your controller box. Perhaps I should look in to a stage 2 kit.
What's this stg 2 kit?
Old 10-20-2014, 06:04 PM
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Smaller pully bigger injectors and a reflash of the failsafe
Old 10-20-2014, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by slapbetcommissioner
Smaller pully bigger injectors and a reflash of the failsafe
I know what the LSJ stg2 is I was wondering what a stg2 failsafe was
Old 10-20-2014, 06:10 PM
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Lol not fail safe, meth kit. I run the devilsown universal kit which is just a pressure switch and relay to activate the meth. Their stage 2 kit has a controller box.
Old 10-20-2014, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Lol not fail safe, meth kit. I run the devilsown universal kit which is just a pressure switch and relay to activate the meth. Their stage 2 kit has a controller box.
I'd buy the AEM kit it works with the failsafe let me look it up
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Where does the madness end though? Lol

AEM meth kit- $400, AEM fail safe- $250, solenoid- $100.

Doing some reading the AEM kit with no fail safe is pretty slick in itself. It doesn't monitor meth flow but does with everything else (wiring problems, overheated pump, low fluid) and you can set up a solenoid to cut boost if one of these parameters fail. So really, as long as your meth nozzle doesn't clog the AEM kit in itself can save the motor. Very cool
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Where does the madness end though? Lol

AEM meth kit- $400, AEM fail safe- $250, solenoid- $100.

Doing some reading the AEM kit with no fail safe is pretty slick in itself. It doesn't monitor meth flow but does with everything else (wiring problems, overheated pump, low fluid) and you can set up a solenoid to cut boost if one of these parameters fail. So really, as long as your meth nozzle doesn't clog the AEM kit in itself can save the motor. Very cool
Ya I think this will work way better for you because it will ramp it up and be easier to tune. If I had to do it again I'd buy the AEM kit for sure but I still like my 5th injector idea I think it'll work out the best
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I probably complicating things cause I like wiring up complicated stuff, lol its fun and I need an excuse.

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snow solenoid is 65

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snow solenoid is 65

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whats that witch craft ^ I never did it like that
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Originally Posted by KMO43
Ya I think this will work way better for you because it will ramp it up and be easier to tune. If I had to do it again I'd buy the AEM kit for sure but I still like my 5th injector idea I think it'll work out the best
my snow kit is progressive like that, goes off maf airflow instead of boost. the more my airflow the more it injects.
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Originally Posted by tomj77
I probably complicating things cause I like wiring up complicated stuff, lol its fun and I need an excuse.

<<<@!1!@>>>

snow solenoid is 65

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snow solenoid is 65
I think you'll have problems if you do a spool solenoid because my turbo will spool up before the meth starts to spray
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Originally Posted by KMO43
Ya I think this will work way better for you because it will ramp it up and be easier to tune. If I had to do it again I'd buy the AEM kit for sure but I still like my 5th injector idea I think it'll work out the best
Maybe I'll just buy the meth kit and leave the fail safe kit. I mean I could run it for extra security I guess but where do you stop. An $800 meth injection set up is hard to swallow lol. Decisions decisions. Somethin to think about.
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Maybe I'll just buy the meth kit and leave the fail safe kit. I mean I could run it for extra security I guess but where do you stop. An $800 meth injection set up is hard to swallow lol. Decisions decisions. Somethin to think about.
Cheaper than a new engine you can use the kit in your next car or sell it
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For that price I should just buy a new 259et and run pump gas lol
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
For that price I should just buy a new 259et and run pump gas lol
Do both... Go big this year!!
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Originally Posted by KMO43
I think you'll have problems if you do a spool solenoid because my turbo will spool up before the meth starts to spray
I'm assuming u mean dual solinoid, wouldn't have an issue, Im not sure if u understand how I'd set it up. There are a few ways to set it up. I'd most likely just have it on wastegate pressure until my meth kit is turned on, then solinoid would activate and run through second solinoid which has a normal state of going through ecu boost control, which would get me full 28 lbs, if kit is turned off it would go back to wastegate pressure.
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Originally Posted by tomj77
I'm assuming u mean dual solinoid, wouldn't have an issue, Im not sure if u understand how I'd set it up. There are a few ways to set it up. I'd most likely just have it on wastegate pressure until my meth kit is turned on, then solinoid would activate and run through second solinoid which has a normal state of going through ecu boost control, which would get me full 28 lbs, if kit is turned off it would go back to wastegate pressure.
That's exactly what I thought you were thinking of and I still think you'll have issues
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Originally Posted by KMO43
Do both... Go big this year!!
Lol perhaps if a turbo deal pending pans out. Gotta do some measurements first
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Lol perhaps if a turbo deal pending pans out. Gotta do some measurements first
If you're measuring it's bigger than a 259et
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Time will tell haha


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