Calgary - random talk thread
02-12-2013, 05:06 PM
15"s and a 24.5"
but yeah. get your stuff on and tuned first. just don't forget about the slicks. haha
12s at 125mph is only fun for the first couple passes. then you get pissed you don't have slicks and aren't going 10s
but yeah. get your stuff on and tuned first. just don't forget about the slicks. haha
12s at 125mph is only fun for the first couple passes. then you get pissed you don't have slicks and aren't going 10s
02-12-2013, 05:19 PM
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judging by the silence i dont think so...... this place is filled with lnf guys.... or people who just too much of a ******** to help a guy out or some members are pissed at me for some reason i dont know about..... so i will just get a place to press on the new hub..... it dont matter to me any.... blue i have some questions about this going to a 2.6.... can you read my mods and suggest to me of what else i may need.... im thinking after some reading i have done that meth is almost a have too, to see any benefits..... so i am thinking i would need a header, meth kit and a throttle body spacer.... is there anything else you think i may need....
02-12-2013, 05:42 PM
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i would be beating a dead horse on a 2.6 with out having meth..... it would probally do more harm then good to the rest of my motor if i just slapped a 2.6 on it.... so unfortunately this is the way it has to be until im ready..... need meth, header, 3 inch intake, spacer plate, and the parts i already broke.....
02-12-2013, 10:21 PM
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i dont think thats completely needed.... but essentially if i did the 2.6 it wouldnt be long before it blew up.... even with meth..... with over 170 000 km with that type of hp it would not take long to blow a ringland.... i might get 1 fun summer off it lol..... i think i may track down a header and run 2.7..... for right now and have it running in a couple of months that could be a realistic option.... maybe find a 3 inch intake somewhere.... honestly i would love to drop to a 2.6 but really not quite a option at this moment.... but hey that could change real quick...... lol
i do have a couple of months before i need the car running so i am not in much of a hurry.... i can aslo already cover the parts that are broken as of now..... so extras is a possibility i just dont think i will be able to scrounge up everything i need in 2 months.....
i do have a couple of months before i need the car running so i am not in much of a hurry.... i can aslo already cover the parts that are broken as of now..... so extras is a possibility i just dont think i will be able to scrounge up everything i need in 2 months.....
02-12-2013, 10:37 PM
Lol your motor won't pop running a 2.6" as long as your tune is in check. You keep talking like a 2.6" and 2.7" pulley are going to do two completely different things. They won't.
Dropping to either pulley isn't going to net you a huge gain in hp. It's torque where you are going to notice the pulley drop.
Dropping to either pulley isn't going to net you a huge gain in hp. It's torque where you are going to notice the pulley drop.
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02-12-2013, 10:52 PM
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then there shouldnt be much diff between 2.8 and 2.7.... each size diff is a steady increase in hp.... and it is a decrease in eff.... i believe in the blowing ringland in the m62 set up like has been said by many.... gm even says that they have a tendacy to blow at 300+.... with the amount of km's and the uncertainy how this car was treated in the past and top it off with my luck i am sure it will definately blow hahahahaha...... you said you wouldnt without supporting mods well i have quite a few there already.... many guys run a 2.7 without meth.... i can understand why you would need it with a 2.6, but a 2.7 isnt a huge drop from a 2.8..... i am running a 2.8 just fine..... matter of fact its damn quick and the motor seems just fine...... with a header at min i should be fine with a 2.7..... unless you know of some voodoo curse? lol what im getting too is if i decide to run a real small pulley and go ***** out i will build motor and drop to a 2.5 with either meth or no2 and stg3 tune.....
02-12-2013, 11:03 PM
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i figure 10, 15 more to the wheels with header and intake...... which would be nice, i do have almost all recovery mods...... it wont be that bad........
lets remember heatsoaking is the m62 game, so take half as many runs in a night lol
also iat2's are at 130 at peak pull.....
lets remember heatsoaking is the m62 game, so take half as many runs in a night lol
also iat2's are at 130 at peak pull.....
02-12-2013, 11:08 PM
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Looks like hes using (blower rpm * pulley size) / Crankshaft pulley size = engine rpm
(14,000 * 2.9) / 6.299 = 6445 rpm
Not sure about the efficiency claims, but I assume he means max rpm while staying under 14,000.
Here is a list of most pulley sizes and what rpm the engine would be at if spun to 16,000rpm
2.5 @ 6350 = 16,000 rpm
2.6 @ 6604 = 16,000 rpm
2.7 @ 6858 = 16,000 rpm
2.76 @ 7,000 = 16000 rpm
2.8 @ 7112 = 16,000 rpm
2.85 @ 7239 = 16,000 rpm
2.9 @ 7366 = 16,000 rpm
2.99 @ 7594 = 16,000 rpm
3.06 @ 7772 = 16,000 rpm
3.14 @ 8000 = 16,000 rpm
3.34 @ 8483 = 16,000 rpm
and the TVS, just for kicks:
2.3 @ 8,033 = 22,000 rpm
2.4 @ 8,382 = 22,000 rpm
2.5 @ 8,731 = 22,000 rpm
2.6 @ 9,080 = 22,000 rpm
2.7 @ 9,430 = 22,000 rpm
2.75 @ 9,604 = 22,000 rpm
2.8 @ 9,779 = 22,000 rpm
2.9 @ 10,128 = 22,000 rpm
3.0 @ 10,477 = 22,000 rpm
3.1 @ 10,827 = 22,000 rpm
3.2 @ 11,176 = 22,000 rpm
3.3 @ 11,525 = 22,000 rpm
3.4 @ 11,874 = 22,000 rpm
(14,000 * 2.9) / 6.299 = 6445 rpm
Not sure about the efficiency claims, but I assume he means max rpm while staying under 14,000.
Here is a list of most pulley sizes and what rpm the engine would be at if spun to 16,000rpm
2.5 @ 6350 = 16,000 rpm
2.6 @ 6604 = 16,000 rpm
2.7 @ 6858 = 16,000 rpm
2.76 @ 7,000 = 16000 rpm
2.8 @ 7112 = 16,000 rpm
2.85 @ 7239 = 16,000 rpm
2.9 @ 7366 = 16,000 rpm
2.99 @ 7594 = 16,000 rpm
3.06 @ 7772 = 16,000 rpm
3.14 @ 8000 = 16,000 rpm
3.34 @ 8483 = 16,000 rpm
and the TVS, just for kicks:
2.3 @ 8,033 = 22,000 rpm
2.4 @ 8,382 = 22,000 rpm
2.5 @ 8,731 = 22,000 rpm
2.6 @ 9,080 = 22,000 rpm
2.7 @ 9,430 = 22,000 rpm
2.75 @ 9,604 = 22,000 rpm
2.8 @ 9,779 = 22,000 rpm
2.9 @ 10,128 = 22,000 rpm
3.0 @ 10,477 = 22,000 rpm
3.1 @ 10,827 = 22,000 rpm
3.2 @ 11,176 = 22,000 rpm
3.3 @ 11,525 = 22,000 rpm
3.4 @ 11,874 = 22,000 rpm
02-12-2013, 11:16 PM
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i think your kinda missing the point..... tvs will always be boss..... i want to try and kick some butt on the m62..... since the hub screws snapped i am at a crossroads.... i could remain the same or i could try slightly more...... anything smaller would require a built motor and direct cooling mods..... if i find myself in a couple of months where i can run meth i will.... lets remember i dont have the greatest war budget.... its 1 step at time
02-12-2013, 11:17 PM
i figure 10, 15 more to the wheels with header and intake...... which would be nice, i do have almost all recovery mods...... it wont be that bad........
lets remember heatsoaking is the m62 game, so take half as many runs in a night lol
also iat2's are at 130 at peak pull.....
lets remember heatsoaking is the m62 game, so take half as many runs in a night lol
also iat2's are at 130 at peak pull.....
02-12-2013, 11:21 PM
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no that was a summer temp bud..... or at least warmer temps.... my car is actually running cool after pulls..... and like i said if the gods smile upon me i will run meth.... i am just thinking realistic here....
02-12-2013, 11:30 PM
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i know jon..... but i have 2 choices.... 1 involves a complete rebuild of the motor..... other is meth....
unless killer chiller is a option? any thoughts....
and actually dustin 130 is all i would hit..... i do have front mount, option b, dual endpass, phenolic, and that was at +20
unless killer chiller is a option? any thoughts....
and actually dustin 130 is all i would hit..... i do have front mount, option b, dual endpass, phenolic, and that was at +20
02-12-2013, 11:35 PM
Here meth is really cheap. 5 gallons is $25. And obviously mix it 50/50. I sprayed meth through my M62 for 2 years and the coating on the rotors were still like new. The only thing it's ever done is wrecked my high flow cat haha. So I went catless.
02-12-2013, 11:43 PM
i know jon..... but i have 2 choices.... 1 involves a complete rebuild of the motor..... other is meth....
unless killer chiller is a option? any thoughts....
and actually dustin 130 is all i would hit..... i do have front mount, option b, dual endpass, phenolic, and that was at +20
unless killer chiller is a option? any thoughts....
and actually dustin 130 is all i would hit..... i do have front mount, option b, dual endpass, phenolic, and that was at +20
02-12-2013, 11:50 PM
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ya but i got some ricer **** going on lol...... there is a bit of plastic removed in the bumper, hood seal is gone, and it may or may not help but i am running lucas.... i dont know man but i know i am not pulling your leg..... the highest i have seen my iat2 is at 140 in rush hour traffic on a close to +20 day..... any time i do a pull it is like clock work the iat2 will read about 125 to 135..... and it recovers real quick...... i have about a 25 to 40 degree temp diff between iat and iat2..... maybe its the mountain air we have here..... lol intercooler pump is working like a damn and fans kick in at 96