soundjunky

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ok, tomorrow and wednesday appear to be free;
Just let me know if one of those works better for you, and it will happen.

FYI: Thursday and saturday are probably a no-go.

KMO43

Do you think you'll be close to me now? I understand you have some more to gain as the tune gets better. Ya surprised it ran with that sensor 2 teeth off

jrmotosports 88

tomorrow after supper is good for me, i will pick you up around 730 if thats good.

hard to judge that til we line up. i think the same thing you will jump out but ol edward is a freight train in higher rpm's. lets just say it builds speed like it has never has before. i giggled like a school girl.

soundjunky

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I am pretty sure that with the K04, 6,500 rpm is already too much - hence going to a larger turbo...
But maybe my understanding is flawed...

IMHO (and from my understanding)
Stock intercooler: 21psi is safe max
Stock short block: 25psi max
Stock charge pipes: 27psi max (but a quick boosts spike to 27psi in a deep freeze will pop them)
Cams increase duration, which increase the amount of time the valve is off the seat;
Which in conventional engines compromises low end power & idle for better high rpm power;
Larger cams, with a turbo that is match (for rpm range) would mean the car makes better power, for longer than with the smaller cams and the smaller turbo (which is best suited for lower rpm response what the average north american buyer wants).

I am by no means committed to any "build", but rather throwing the idea around...
And DIC info is of paramount importance to me, I drive to & from High River every day, so I generally at least once a week roll into HR on fumes to make he best of my fill there...
I don't know if there have been any advances in adjusting the ECM for injector changes so that the DIC reads correctly;
From my observation with LSJ's, no one has paid any reguard to DIC outputs, so mileage info is way out of whack (larger injector reduces required duty cycle, and in turn the DIC thinks that your mileage has just substantially increased)...

WRONG THREAD!!

KMO43

With a bigger turbo you can get more revs from the engine because it will hold boost all the way up top making it "seem" like a bigger cam. My turbo holds boost up top nicely but not compared to the ZFR if you are so concerned about having the estimated fuel mileage I would stick with the stock cams maybe valve springs and either the ZFR or the bigwheel I have after you come in my car you can decide

jrmotosports 88

i know kevins big wheel does not fall off at 6000 rpm like the original ko4 does. the big wheel hits harder then the trifecta tuned ko4, and holds it longer. the ko4 in his car before the big wheel fell flat on its face at 6000. he had to short shift to keep me behind him when we were messing around.

KMO43

With my bigwheel running 25psi peak it'll prob just drop to only 24psi at 6500rpm. Mine drops to 23 but I still have a small leak on my map sensor

jrmotosports 88

hahahahahahah i thought i was seeing things a french troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too funny. wrong thread buddy, hit the bricks.

KMO43

Ya for sure Mark I think for a reliable build this is a good cheap route to go. I'd 100% recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to spend 1000s on their car

Hit the bricks haha

jrmotosports 88

i think that big wheel is the only thing gonna keep me behind him again. any ko4 stock better pray they catch me napping.

soundjunky

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the cams won't affect DIC, only changing injectors will do that;
There's an algorithm that has to do with the injectors duty cycle going on there that creates the mileage;
When the injector is changed the algorithm isn't changed, so it simply sees a smaller duty cycle, and thinks less fuel is being used;
this is also why to the best of my knowledge the larger fuel pump lobe would screw DIC readings up.

soundjunky

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did you ever happen t notice this claim on ZZP's site(?);

KMO43

Yes that's why I said cams with the bigger lobe but unless you're going bigger you don't need cams. And with keeping the DIC like you want to you can't go too big

KMO43

Ya that is E85 cams, ported head and a maxed out K04 on a 2.1L

jrmotosports 88

nobody here running E, nor the parts they ran to hit that number. i know you think im full of it jonathan. maybe reserve your thoughts til we datalog again. lets just say sunday was a joke hahahahaha.

kevin guesstimated with full bolt ons and meth he was about a 330 hp car. which is approx right to the rest of the numbers others make with similar mods. if he didnt have the big wheel right now he would be in trouble.

KMO43

I still have a small leak too Mark but nothing like before after talking to Term2 I don't know if I want to run anymore meth maybe another 100cc but not more than 225cc more. I wish I could have shown you 3rd that's where it starts to shine. I'll get my **** together but it may be in 2 months and by then we'll see I may have a trick or 2 in sept. I have pretty good topend now tho

jrmotosports 88

this is what surprised us both when we had some fun. he jumped out and i ran him down. which is direct opposite to all of our initial thoughts. i may ot hit as hard as a ko4 but i build speed alot better and hold boost for longer. as soon as the ko4 fell on its face i was there to take advantage.


from my quick ride tonight i found every gear shining now.

KMO43

So Mark just to let you know my warranty on the work I did for you expired I have a one day fire it up warranty!! Glad to hear it's running great and it'll just get stronger I have a good plan now for clutch after I'm back from Kelowna

jrmotosports 88

well thats still better then my tail light warranty. hahhahahaha you just let me know when your ready and i will come help you, and also drop those tires off. well i knocked about a quarter inch of dust off my dashes today. about ready to do my windows. waiting only on the blue. i already fixed my boost guage. i should be ready for a weekend of trolling now. i may have to goto timmies on sat. hahahahhahaha

KMO43

Well if you'd like you can drop them off tonight but aren't you datalogging?

KMO43

I am going to look into getting my clutch part in Kelowna cause I know a place it's just if I can get it done before I leave I'll know fri

jrmotosports 88

ya i am data logging tonight. so tonight dont work so well anymore.


hello blue!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhahahaha on to the final touches. absolutely sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KMO43

Then after I'm back I'll be in next wed and I don't work till monday so I am going to do trans if I can get the part and I'll come for a rip in the LSJ

jrmotosports 88

he is waiting for you. lol by the time you get back it should be ready for a good rip

KMO43

That's what I was thinking it should pretty much be done by the time I get back. If I can get my part in time we can go out next weekend or somthing if I'm all fixed up