CalgaryBalt

Pffft, Im not a puker!

soundjunky

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but aren't you trying to get the Winnipeg crew together for a wing night!?

correction;
sorry that was BlueLightning;

His post almost made me post up here earlier today...

CalgaryBalt

yup you should fly down here, and then me and you will get loaded and soundjunky can drive us back to my house for the after party lol

Projekt

If i get ONE tune paid for, i will fly down

thats the Projekt Promise of the night

I party hard sir, drinking as we speak (work in 6 hours)

kasper_17

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outta - that is ridiculous he would just leave his car like that and leave.... I probably woulda lost it and done somethin to his vehicle, but that would not be to my benefit.

soundjunky - dunno if i'd be able to go to that meeting/drinking thing saturday, could be a fun time tho and possibly be able to find out what the future holds for race city

jrmotosports 88

i cant on sat to much to do for sun!!!!!!! steve if you want for now you can pop over the shop and i can can quickly buff up some of the scratches... til you get the car in the shop, at least it would look beter hahahaha... i always hated that too... however i must say **** does happen.... me and johnathan will be at the shop after work thurs... also kris man i appreciate that buddy!!!!! hahaha

remeber guys everyone is invited on sunday... come about 5!!!! i promise you be full!!!!!

outtamymind

Thx and believe me I wanted to take my fist to every window on his vehicle. Like had he just backed up I wouldn't have been wiser, but nope he had to be an idiot.

Also I got to clean my car to see if there's any other scratches that I haven't seen.

soundjunky

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Steve,
Assuming the scratches are not too deep, if none of your friends at any dealer can help you out I have stuff to help - but I'd wager Mark (being a detailer) would be able to do alot better than me.

soundjunky

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So you wanted to break your fist(s)?!

on word;
tire-iron

be sure to check your bumper shocks (I'm assuming these cars have them btw);
once a bumper shock has been compressed, it's junk;
look for scratches to indicate it has compressed, and will virtually fold up on the next impact.

I just looked on rockauto, but was left thinking maybe our cars don't have them...
but in any case, it's worth mentioning.

outtamymind

Ya everything seems to be surface scratches, I think what happened was when he parked, the trans still rolled a bit till it locked on the brake pin and hit my car.

soundjunky

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^^ yeah but even in that situation the car rolls what, an inch?

he still was an idiot, and parked too close;
by doing so he showed a lack of regard for other people's property;
that sir, is why that kind of crap enrages me.

outtamymind

Oh ya I was pissed. Again if I was parked right on the yellow and this happened then its kinda my fault for parking so close but I was 2 feet away from the yellow. And I have way too much stuff in my trunk to get at the tire iron haha

soundjunky

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sorry to change the subject, but look what I just noticed;

Time For Action

kissrocker52

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what time abouts are you going to marks shop jon cause i am off all day and i was going to get some stuff done too ands maybe you could show me those parts too

soundjunky

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re: Marks shop; that's tomorrow

I am not lugging cylinder heads there though;
If you want me to try to explain it with visuals, just call me, and swing by my place... I mean it's not like I'm far from you

besides, fabric portions of my car are all still 100% oil free... that's something I'd like to maintain.

I have probably nearly ten heads, most of which are bone stock;
iirc one has been fully ported (albeit lightly; I have almost exclusively run the best casting);
Another two have had some light port work in the exhaust side only.

The Quad4 heads use monster ports compared to the ecotec - this is attributed to why the engine can be so noisy, and had to go through several rounds of detuning to quiet down and eliminate NVH - to appease the automotive press...
By '95 (last year of the 2.3L) the Quad4 exhaust ports were right about the size of the ecotec ports, but still the reduced 2.4L (Twin Cam) intake ports were larger than the ecotec (iirc);
I think my brother has a Twin Cam head in my garage...

Just typing this makes me want to work on & drive my GA...

kissrocker52

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ya tomorrow when you are done we could swing by your place

soundjunky

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Since my mind is on cylinder head porting now...

I figured that maybe some flow numbers might interest you guys...

for comparisons sake, I found a while ago stock CFM flow numbers for the LSJ head I'll put it against the different Quad4 heads (I'm assuming the LE5 head would have similar numbers to the LSJ, but I would also expect the L61/LAP head to not flow as good);

@ lift = LSJ - 955 - 086 - 456

Intake side:

@ .100" = 76 - 96.7 - 73.3 - 77.0
@ .200" = 152 - 164.8 - 149.2 - 156.2
@ .300" = 217 - 230.2 - 221.7 - 222.6
@ .350" = 232 - 234.2 - 250.8 - 248.7
@ .400" = 242 - 239.3 - 267.0 - 261.4
@ .450" = 247 - 240.0 - 274.6 - 265.0
@ .500" = *** - *** - *** - ***

Exhaust side:

@ .100" = 73 - 68.2 - 57.1 - 67.8
@ .200" = 139 - 127.7 - 125.1 - 135.5
@ .300" = 156 - 149.5 - 167.7 - 164.5
@ .350" = 159 - 151.9 - 176.2 - 168.3
@ .400" = 161 -153.8 - 180.3 - 170.8
@ .450" = 163 - 160.0 - 183.2 - 172.9
@ .500" = *** - 170.0 - 205.6 - 197.7

legend:
*** = values not available
955 = 1988-1989 casting (150hp engines)
086 = 1990-1992 casting (150/160/180/190hp engines)
456 = 1994-95 casting (150hp engines 1994/1995 & 170hp 1994 only)

Actually you can all get something out of this info;
You know how some people scoff at certain mods hurting low end power (eg: Marks exhaust);
this is best exemplified by the exhaust flow numbers @ .100" & .200" lift;
see how the LSJ & 456 castings have the highest numbers there? - that's because the smaller port size aids in signal at the lower lift values, which in turn increases velocity...

This is quite similar to how a bigger exhaust, or port work will change things;
with a larger port, your low lift values are not as good, but it is leveled out by the better high lift values.

Now here's what ties it all together;

I have some numbers from one ported 086 head - this will show how the flow can change from port work (which when matched properly to other parts will yield higher horsepower potential);


@ lift = unported 086 - ported 086

Intake side:

@ .100" = 73.3 - 84.2
@ .200" = 149.2 - 164.8
@ .300" = 221.7 - 226.7
@ .350" = 250.8 - 250.2
@ .400" = 267.0 - 269.3
@ .450" = 274.6 - 286.1
@ .500" = *** - ***

Exhaust side:

@ .100" = 57.1 - 131.4
@ .200" = 125.1 - 139.7
@ .300" = 167.7 - 181.6
@ .350" = 176.2 - 194.3
@ .400" = 180.3 - 202.5
@ .450" = 183.2 - 207.0
@ .500" = 205.6 - 237.3

Pickles

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I'll go depending on who else is going.

soundjunky

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I'm thinking now of going regaurdless...

CalgaryBalt

It all depends. $25 just seems like they want to take our money

soundjunky

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well it includes food ect, ect...
I spend over half of that if I go to Fat-burger...
I'd also like to try to be involved in any future motorsports in the Calgary area.

deadline for tickets is tonight...

cli3e0339384398jk

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for food and a dance that is pretty damn cheap.

soundjunky

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ok guys...

I'm going out right now to buy my ticket for the dinner/dance.

If any of you want to go, I might be able to get them to hold tickets (and you pay saturday) - but call me if you want to come, and want me to arrange your ticket. 255 3582

cli3e0339384398jk

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im in red deer sat, have fun

Projekt

fly me in nuggas