Cobalt Turbo Stage I Kits in Stock
12-08-2009 | 02:03 PM
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**EDIT: my bad, found description https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show....php?p=4057039
The learn down feature is a set in stone kinda thing with the cars pcm. Any mods you put on the car, you name it, will not give you any horsepower advantages unless its removed. The car will "learn down" every mod you put into the car so that it only makes a max of 261 hp at crank and 262 torque at crank.
Lets say you put a intake, exhaust, IC, and charge piping on your car but you havent gotten the thing tuned or the learn down feature removed. You will still only make the stock amount of crank horsepower. You may be able to get to the stock max of hp quicker since you made the cars breathing abilities better but the car will never take advantage of the power gain it could have.
In fact the only way you will see more hp is if you were looking for whp and you got lightweight rims or a lightweight flywheel or drilled slotted rotors. (reduced rotational mass etc...)
Lets say you put a intake, exhaust, IC, and charge piping on your car but you havent gotten the thing tuned or the learn down feature removed. You will still only make the stock amount of crank horsepower. You may be able to get to the stock max of hp quicker since you made the cars breathing abilities better but the car will never take advantage of the power gain it could have.
In fact the only way you will see more hp is if you were looking for whp and you got lightweight rims or a lightweight flywheel or drilled slotted rotors. (reduced rotational mass etc...)
12-08-2009 | 04:58 PM
#153
12-08-2009 | 05:48 PM
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Wow, Tom shipped the kit out middle of last week and it was already available for pick-up last night. In case anyone in Ontario is curious, duty charges are $71.94 (GST/PST + $5.00 Customs Handling); all factored in (and estimating the exchange rate) ordering this through CED saved me damned near 50% off the Canadian retail (ie. ~$625) when taxes are factored in in Ontario 
! No brainer where to order it from imo.
! No brainer where to order it from imo.
12-12-2009 | 07:32 PM
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So if I were to have already installed CAI, IC, Hot side charge piping, Catless downpipe and Larger O.d catback exhausted and purchased the tune would it take advantage of those bolt ons or limit to what the tune originaly makes as far as hp trq?
12-12-2009 | 10:40 PM
#156
it will not learn down if you install "stage 1" it will learn the gains.
01-25-2010 | 04:21 AM
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*are you still the best price in town? you dropped to 5th on the search on http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/home.jsp
*what is average install price (you are $50 miles from me but every nearby dealer is full of "whats a stage 1" type of employees)
*in stock?
i am looking to purchase mid-feb for my b-day
*what is average install price (you are $50 miles from me but every nearby dealer is full of "whats a stage 1" type of employees)
*in stock?
i am looking to purchase mid-feb for my b-day
01-25-2010 | 02:08 PM
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*are you still the best price in town? you dropped to 5th on the search on http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/home.jsp
May be the only one in town that actually stocks them.
*what is average install price (you are $50 miles from me but every nearby dealer is full of "whats a stage 1" type of employees)
we charge $110.00 for the install.
*in stock? Yes
i am looking to purchase mid-feb for my b-day
May be the only one in town that actually stocks them.
*what is average install price (you are $50 miles from me but every nearby dealer is full of "whats a stage 1" type of employees)
we charge $110.00 for the install.
*in stock? Yes
i am looking to purchase mid-feb for my b-day
Thanks
Tom
02-02-2010 | 03:27 PM
#164
I got mine in the mail yesterday!
I couldn't ask for better service, wow! Shipped last Wednesday, and i got it the following Monday, and i think all the Canadians know how long some things take to get to us up north! Great service, and a great price!
Ps. I love the shirt too! :P
Thanks for the product guys, hope to do business again!
I couldn't ask for better service, wow! Shipped last Wednesday, and i got it the following Monday, and i think all the Canadians know how long some things take to get to us up north! Great service, and a great price!
Ps. I love the shirt too! :P
Thanks for the product guys, hope to do business again!
02-12-2010 | 02:57 PM
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what a great group of guys!
I know they were busy but I didnt wana hang up the phone with Dan or Tom
Great guys to talk too!
Ordered and set to go on the 23rd!
I know they were busy but I didnt wana hang up the phone with Dan or Tom
Great guys to talk too!
Ordered and set to go on the 23rd!
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02-16-2010 | 07:30 PM
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damn...........they did a great job.
great guys
great job
2 hours including the recall
car is insane....with a warranty!
great guys
great job
2 hours including the recall
car is insane....with a warranty!
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02-16-2010 | 07:55 PM
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02-16-2010 | 08:10 PM
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coming from me (400hp car in the garage) i can honestly say.........you will instantly know you have more power, every gear feels like it wants to go.
now 3rd gear rolls happen a bit quicker.
my poor rev limiter the 1st time i attempt a NLS.
