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Old 12-26-2008, 11:45 PM
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aluminum flywheel necessary?

alright, i have to buy a new clutch and was looking at Clutch Masters Stage III. now my question is, are aluminum flywheels really necessary or would i be able to get by on my stock flywheel? seeing that it's probably going to cost me an arm and a leg for the clutch install i'm trying to see if i can cut out the new flywheel without regretting it later.
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I'm lookin for the same answer as I'll soon be appx 380HP and 420TQ. Subscribed
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Originally Posted by Premier
alright, i have to buy a new clutch and was looking at Clutch Masters Stage III. now my question is, are aluminum flywheels really necessary or would i be able to get by on my stock flywheel? seeing that it's probably going to cost me an arm and a leg for the clutch install i'm trying to see if i can cut out the new flywheel without regretting it later.
not necessary, you may need to have stock fly resurfaced but you could prob get away without it so keeping the stock flywheel is possible. a new fly is just gonna cut back on rotational weight which will gain power to wheels n revs go up n down faster but its all up to you in what you are looking for. i have a spec clutch n fidanza aluminum flywheel n love it. did the install myself within 10-12 hours
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I interested in seeing what you guys think to since I'm in the same boat.
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if your not going stupid with power goals, its not needed. if your going turbo and for big power, id put it on as a safety concern. ever see what happens when a cast iron flywheel explodes??? its not pretty. on a rwd without a scatter sheild usualy chunks go through the floor and impail the drivers legs leaving them paralized, in a fwd itll take out the block, tranny case, fan, rad, hood, you name it. aluminum flywheels are stronger and better resist the centrifical force and stresses caused by the added power.
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
not necessary, you may need to have stock fly resurfaced but you could prob get away without it so keeping the stock flywheel is possible. a new fly is just gonna cut back on rotational weight which will gain power to wheels n revs go up n down faster but its all up to you in what you are looking for. i have a spec clutch n fidanza aluminum flywheel n love it. did the install myself within 10-12 hours



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if your not going stupid with power goals, its not needed. if your going turbo and for big power, id put it on as a safety concern. ever see what happens when a cast iron flywheel explodes??? its not pretty. on a rwd without a scatter sheild usualy chunks go through the floor and impail the drivers legs leaving them paralized, in a fwd itll take out the block, tranny case, fan, rad, hood, you name it. aluminum flywheels are stronger and better resist the centrifical force and stresses caused by the added power.

Thanks guys for the answers.
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Originally Posted by Premier
Thanks guys for the answers.
no problem. altho if you are looking for like 500whp id say go with a steel lightweight flywheel. im pretty sure spec carries them or exedy chromoly are really good
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Not "needed" but frees up some rotational mass so your engine will rev much quicker.

PM us we will most likely be able to price match/beat. PM us part numbers and links, we should be the cheapest...
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Only buy lightened billet or chromoly flywheels. I've seen to many aluminum flywheels explode.
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Originally Posted by Premier
Thanks guys for the answers.
do some more research; it is true that scattershields for racing are recommended and/or mandatory. But dont trust the forums; it is 100% false to claim that alloy flywheels are stronger and safer. There is no data to back up this claim and in terms of the ecotec, not a good idea. Period.
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Not "needed" but frees up some rotational mass so your engine will rev much quicker.

PM us we will most likely be able to price match/beat. PM us part numbers and links, we should be the cheapest...
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Originally Posted by Premier
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Replied and can do just as you asked
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from what i was told the stocker flywheel cannot be resurfaced, i don't know if their is any truth to it or not.According to alldata it is 8.1 hrs to replace the clutch
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I would guess all data is correct for a 1st time mechanic, I think if you knew what to do, you should be able to do it in 4-6 hours with a friend.
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WHAT! 8 hours? You can buy a new ****** engine for what it would cost you in labor paying a tech for 8 hours. Jesus
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yeah but i know some shops go by how long it takes them to do it instead of what alldata says. but i'm sure the dealer would charge 8.1. On alldata it says for warranty they pay 5.6hrs lol
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
do some more research; it is true that scattershields for racing are recommended and/or mandatory. But dont trust the forums; it is 100% false to claim that alloy flywheels are stronger and safer. There is no data to back up this claim and in terms of the ecotec, not a good idea. Period.

no garentee that an aftermarket flywheel is better, however i wouldnt trust a cast iron flywheel above factory rev limit. a billet flywheel should be stronger just because of the manufacturing process. a billet steel flywheel should be the strongest, however with aluminum there is less weight wich will lead to less stress on the flywheel itself. as i said, nothing is a garentee, the best thing to do would be to find one that is SFI aproved. i know spec clutches are SFI aproved, not sure about their flywheels.
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LNF people need to take into consideration that you already have a lighter flywheel than an LSJ stock...
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Only buy lightened billet or chromoly flywheels. I've seen to many aluminum flywheels explode.
thats what i was trying to say but im not planning over 250whp so aluminum is fine with me

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no garentee that an aftermarket flywheel is better, however i wouldnt trust a cast iron flywheel above factory rev limit. a billet flywheel should be stronger just because of the manufacturing process. a billet steel flywheel should be the strongest, however with aluminum there is less weight wich will lead to less stress on the flywheel itself. as i said, nothing is a garentee, the best thing to do would be to find one that is SFI aproved. i know spec clutches are SFI aproved, not sure about their flywheels.
spec is good with both last i heard
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing
Replied and can do just as you asked
PM'd with order number. thanks aaron!
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No

Originally Posted by steddy2112
LNF people need to take into consideration that you already have a lighter flywheel than an LSJ stock...
Wrong... they're the same weight..... and anything that's lighter will add up to the eqivalent of 10-12 more hp from the lightened flywheel mass... the car will accelerate about 3-4 tenths of a sec quicker (5.3 sec 0-60 instead of 5.6-5.7 sec) and such
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So with 390whp would a aluminum flywheel not be a good idea?
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i'm pretty sure the aluminum flywheel should be good for that. what are you doing to your car that you'll be pushin 390whp?
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Originally Posted by Premier
i'm pretty sure the aluminum flywheel should be good for that. what are you doing to your car that you'll be pushin 390whp?

Getting a tune from Psychosteve for now, but for the 390whp I'm thinking about the GT30r kit that has just been release for the TC. There expecting those numbers and maybe even more. I'll have the Charge piping from Clear Image, Hahn Intercooler, Hahn 3" exhaust and either Hahn Intake or CLear Image when they release there's.


More info here:http://btfstore.co.cc/index.php?cPat...eda0acfff48aeb


Hopefully with all this I'll see 400whp. I think I would be happy with that.
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Short answer.. yes!

Buy mine

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