Eddie

50 bucks i'd do it, try it out. doesnt hurt. yeah i could have said it the first time but there were quite a few idiots adding fuel to our fire and none of them contributed to this as well haha. but yeah if its 50 bucks which sounds too damn cheap to be true but who knows. I considered cryotreating my gears in my cavalier when i rebuilt it but it was alot more expensive then 50 bucks. so i didnt do it.

hg_5

So the big question is, Has anyone used this yet???It sounds really interesting...It might be the best bang for the buck so far...

celicacobalt

get some stock axles, cryo treat them and let us know what happens.

Gory

Mikronite And Cryogenics are 2 completely diferent things.
Mikronite is surface treatment that removes potential surface stress fractures.
Cryogenics actually restructures the molocules and crystaline bonds in the material.
It is like a 2nd step to heat treating.

If you wanted to have good axels i would go with cryo personaly.

ItalianJoe1

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I had my rotors cryo'd by a buddy's shop, and they haven't warped or had any problems whatsoever, and I paid $40 each for the procedure. It is usually charged by the pound, because they need so much nitrogen to cool down the material. I like the theory behind the process and if you can afford it it can't hurt you. There is no way to tell how much stronger it would make them though, as there are so many factors that cause axle failures and you could not possibly replicate all of them the same every time. It will be better than whatever you had before though.

If you think the $800 price is too steep, take them to a local drivetrain shop and see if they can build stronger ones for you. I will probably get the DSS ones for the fact that they have experience in building these and people who have them are having good luck with them. I will take my old ones and get a quote on having 5-600 hp ones made when that time comes around.

Blown 4-banger

I have the driveshaft shop axles. They were definatly expensive ($0.00) but I think they will be worth it

Oh, and cryo freezing helps the strength of anything with a carbon atom. I'm cryo freezing my crank, rods, block, and pistons. Did you guy know Tiger Woods cryo freezes his clubs?

R&C_rallySS

I got my axles for around 700 shipped. Sitting here at my house and I'm going to be able to launch over 5k rpms with my DRs and motor mounts and tranny mounts without anything breaking. Well worth 700 bucks!

hatrickstu

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hope you got some sticky dr's then, cuz mine wouldnt hook up there

denn454

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i don't know about the prices, but i've done it before and had great success with it.

I had the imput shaft on my grand national tranny cryo'd and didn't have any issues with it. on a 200-4r the imput shaft is the weak link, it has a deep groove that really weakens the part. I was making about 800 ft/lbs of torque and never had a problem with the input shaft.

most other people making that kind of power weren't having many problems, but with 10,000 miles, and a lot of 12 second passes with 2.6 sed 60' times i didn't have any issues.

is it worth it? I think so. Even though my old tranny probably would have survived without having the input shaft croy'd it was a gamble. I made it with no problems.

is it best for you? i don't know. I would say so. $800 is way too much, shop around. you might have to ship the parts out, but you can do much better.

SilverSS/SC

The stock axles will handle alot more power than people think , if their treated right . Sheer power is NOT breaking them . Radial tires and drag radial tires and the shock and harmonics they provide are biggest problem I see at the moment . There is a member of this site , that is still running stock axles with a real slick , solid motor mount , poly trans mounts and LCA bushings on low 13 sec car without failure . Still stand by my comment , treat your axles right and they are stronger pieces than people give them credit for .

Smarter>broke....errr

lsjwannabe

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they are 709 from ultra rev i believe. your chocie what you wanna do i got mine becuase i caught a crazy deal from a buddy so i could not resist. There have been people to break the 400hp axles to for everyone's info

hatrickstu

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ok again, read the starter post people. i honestly dont care what you guys think about the stage 2 axles, i know i cant afford them, hence why im asking about cryo. READ

lsjwannabe

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waste of time and money get the stock ones agian and wait for them break i guess, or stop drving aggressive

hatrickstu

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you are the only person to say cryo is a waste of time, do you have reasoning for this?

Eddie

i wondering if he was refering to the DSS axles or the cryo, not sure. lol. honestly bro go for the cryo try it out and let us know how it works out. i dont think n e one's done it, be the Guinea pig. lol and good luck w/ it hope it works out for ya.

hatrickstu

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ha the only way i can be the guinea pig is to try and break it the same way haha. i think ill be a little easier on these...

Eddie

ah come on, dont be gentle go mid evil on there ass

hatrickstu

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did that, twice

lsjwannabe

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i was talkig about the cryo i don't think it will have much of a effect

hatrickstu

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are you familiar with cryo?

lsjwannabe

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yeah i was looking into all that **** and i read 2k5's thread about some special crap but the way i look at it is your trying to out a band aid on a leg that fell of it just doesn't work the axles were not meant to handle much more than stock power and wheel hop doesn't help either. I got lucky like i said and had a deal i could not pass up or i would have shelled out more dough for em. I would say honestly save your money and launch a little easier

hatrickstu

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just FYI, talked to the cryo guy and i am going to have to disassemble my shafts (meaning just removing the boots and degreasing) and it will take 72 hours. gonna be close getting this sucker ready for the import shootout

lsjwannabe

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gl hope it works well

SilverSS/SC

Hopefully this avenue works well for ya dude .

hatrickstu

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we'll see...