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Old 01-31-2008, 04:18 AM
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F23 final drive ratio..

What Final Drive ratios do you guys have as stock, and available from other models?

The best for accel we can find in the UK is a 4.17... which yeah its great but was wondering what else is out there in the wide world

or failing that just simply where can a 4.17 pr be purchased from new in the US (mail order) as I'm very confident it will be cheaper than a 2nd hand set here.

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bump for the guy accross the ocean .....any late night/super early babys know?
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3.82:1 final drive ratio
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doh, our stock on is 3.95.

hmm more searching needed then
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wait wait... I was under the impression that the SS/SC's stock ratio is 4.05:1...

"The Ecotec 2.0L SC is mated to a five-speed manual transmission. The 240-millimeter clutch assembly is larger on the 2.0-liter supercharged I-4 than the other naturally aspirated Ecotecs. The five-speed has close-ratio gearing that is tailored to the power band of the 2.0-liter engine. To improve acceleration the final drive ratio is also shorter at 4.05:1. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts and provides a more positive feel as well. Equal length transmission half shafts are also utilized to address torque steer in this front-drive car."

the new SS/TC ratio is 3.82:1.
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Originally Posted by RaineMan
wait wait... I was under the impression that the SS/SC's stock ratio is 4.05:1...

"The Ecotec 2.0L SC is mated to a five-speed manual transmission. The 240-millimeter clutch assembly is larger on the 2.0-liter supercharged I-4 than the other naturally aspirated Ecotecs. The five-speed has close-ratio gearing that is tailored to the power band of the 2.0-liter engine. To improve acceleration the final drive ratio is also shorter at 4.05:1. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts and provides a more positive feel as well. Equal length transmission half shafts are also utilized to address torque steer in this front-drive car."

the new SS/TC ratio is 3.82:1.
the f23 is not the ss/sc. the ss/sc is the f35
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I didn't know we had the option of swapping around Final Drives?

I Don't know much about them in our cars besides the little I lerned Swapping in a 4.10 in my 87 Monte SS??
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I believe the SS/SC race cars use a final drive out of a Grand Am.
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ss/sc is 4.05:1, end of discussion.

Now swapping out the final drives, don't know. Anyone done it?
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The cobalt F23 M86 transaxle has a 3.84 final drive. The Saturn Vue F23 MG3 transaxle has a 4.41 final drive. The only other difference between the two is 5th gear. The Vue has a .81 where the Cobalt has a .69. The internals are completely interchangable from what I have been told however the cases have different mount locations.
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was actualy looking to do a 4.41 fdr swap in a friends nitrous fed cavalier drag car. basicly all you needed was the ring gear and countershaft (it has the final drive "drive" gear atatched to it)
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ohhhh 4.41, now we are talking!!!!

let me guess though, its rarer than rockinghorse **** ?
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Wouldnt think a Saturn Vue with a manual transmission would be all that common but they did make them.
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Originally Posted by slindborg
ohhhh 4.41, now we are talking!!!!

let me guess though, its rarer than rockinghorse **** ?


Hey mate, the 4.41 is my idea
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i think you can get the parts from gm for around $300 last time i priced it
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
i think you can get the parts from gm for around $300 last time i priced it

ohhh now thats cheap as its nearly $1K for a new one from GM here lol



Alanoo, maybe we can get a few shipped over the europe
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
i think you can get the parts from gm for around $300 last time i priced it


Hum looks really cheap

I was looking for the part numbers since a few months without success, if only you may help us with that ... ?
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Still found no way to get the parts numbers
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Originally Posted by alanoo
Still found no way to get the parts numbers
I'll get them tomorrow
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I've been wondering why gears haven't been a big thing around here.
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I guess the main reason is the huge differences between the US and European Racing types
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a while back I was thinking about using the lower gear from the Saturn Vue, found trannies on ebay cheap. just look up trannies on ebay, it's the F23 from the vue
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this is the first time i have seen european members on here... wow paris and england? damn
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Do our European GM enthusiests owne Cobalts?
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Not exactly, Slindborg and I are driving Opel Speedster / Vauxhall VX220.
Basically a Lotus Elise chassis with a L61 2.2 Ecotec engine


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