maregis

I have a 2005 SS supercharged with out a LSD. The traction is horrible. I lowered the car which helps alot but I am still not happy. Does anybody know where and how I can put this system on my car?

Thanks

SmOKe JeNsOn

here ya gohttp://www.dezod.com/cat_limited_slip.cfm

victory_red_SS

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Phone Ed @ 216 798-6902. He has the complete '05 LSD tranny for sale and you could offer $900. and get it right away. Then you just need to swap it in. The easiest way to have LSD and not hallucinate.

maregis

Do you know whats all involved with putting the LSD in? Is it as simple as just slipping it in?

an0malous

when you say "the traction is horrible"

what exactly are you talking about?
because an LSD is gonna be alot of money for something that might not give you what you think it will.
If your talking about traction in a straight line in first gear....i think you would be dissapointed with your purchase, as far as performance change vs cost.

victory_red_SS

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The unit I mentioned is a complete transmission and that is easier than changing the LSD.
You need the transmission removed either way but to add a LSD to a non-lsd tranny requires another 7 hours of shop time. I know I did it which is why I suggest buying a complete transmission.
I know that fellow has the transmission because I bought the engine it went with, earlier today.
He is an actual parts reseller.

CJ BadBlackSS

The LSD is very difficult to swap out from what I hear, as I have inquirred about it myself. Your best bet is to just swap th whole tranny. then you're talking an 8 hour project for an experienced mechanic.

Brian MP5T

Ummm, I think your take on how big a difference this makes is on the low side.

This was a night and day change on my Mazda.

The Quaife, allows me to accelerate very hard on On Ramps in the rain or dry where before I would light up the inside tire and loose grip.

Plus, the launch is night and day.. If you don't get tires that grip, all the LSDs in the world will not help.

Lower the Car, Motor Mounts, Buy Tires, Buy The LSD at the same time.

syP

LSD ftw... open diff FTL

an0malous

Im not saying its useless.
Im just trying to make sure that the result this person is hoping for is going to be worth the cost.
you say "inside tire" thats where im in complete agreeance.
basically if your talking about traction where the wheels are turned...the LSD is gonna shine.
But if the "traction is horrible" statement, was directed more to the fact that when taking off in a straight line, this thing lights em up all day, then an LSD IMO is alot of money to spend for little to no difference.
the launch traction in this car will still be ****. LSD or no LSD.
its a function of being FWD.
were never going to have great traction in first gear.

non LSD cobalts are cutting 2.0-2.1 60ft times, so I personally dont feel that an LSD is worth the money purely for straight line acceleration.

(this is assuming your talkin about a <280hp daily driven type cobalt, on street tires)

Brian MP5T

I went from leaving a long single black line All through 1st and 2nd.

To leaving a pair of 18" Black lines.

It removed a Full second from my 0 - 60

Money in the bank, If you can buy it, do it. If you have other things to spen the money on, don't.

There, Crystal Clear.

an0malous

why isnt it helping on cobalts though?
the non LSD cobalt is cutting times exactly the same as the G85.
shouldnt there be a noticable difference?

Brian MP5T

The Quaife is an after market adjustable LSD.

Stock LSDs on anything but a Porsche or Lotus give other LSDs a bad name for being a waste.

EDIT, The g85 is a Quaife, but it's generic and OEM in design. Being able to adjust the Diff makes a huge diference.

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an0malous

as far as im aware the LSD on the cobalt is quaife, but I confess i know very little about it.

maregis

Its obvious LSD could not make a too much of a difference in a strait line unless it is wet or slippery. I use my SS for Solo racing and the grip just sucks"lots of hard cornering". Lowering made a big difference but it still sucks. I don't think I will be willing to pay the money for a new tranny considering from what it sounds from you guys there will be a $3000 plus price tag for the work and materials. I guess im screwed but I still love my Car, just wish I had a LSD!

an0malous

ahhhh thanks for answering.
no doubt whatsoever an lsd would be killer for you

dont give up hope....maybe a deal will come up.

Brian MP5T

The Launch is actually where the LSD really shines..

victory_red_SS

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What part of my post aren't you reading? You can get the complete transmission with the Quaife LSD already in it, for only $900. plus shipping. Maybe even lower if you haggle with the guy. Then you take it out the stock one yourself and put in the replacement. Even if you need to pay a friend to help you you are only looking at about $1300. for what you say you want. On top of that you have your stock tranny for a replacement or to sell.

maregis

Is that $900 used? I thought you may of been talking about just the LSD alone. Its hard to belive a transmission for the Cobalt will be $900 new or used. I will check up on this, thank you.

TurboTechRacing

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We also carry the Quaife LSD unit

firemanfrank

If that were true, then why did not one single reviewer comment on the LSD's help towards launching/straight line performance?

Nope, no where to be found ....

Scythe_Snake

How long would a LSD install take?

Corvettespirit

a lot of money$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

07LSC

This is another one of those times when we need to wish that our cars are rwd, not because traction would be better than ours, but because a differential swap is a piece of cake compared to fwd. (well and traction is easier/better, lol)

firemanfrank

Yes and No.

This is my only car, so I have to drive it in Winter.

When I permanantely put on All-Season Pirelli's this Fall, the car wil have very little/no problems in the snow.

Can't say that with a high performance RWD car (like a Mustang).

Forget RWD in all year driving!