BigTizzle903

Yesterday I bought 2 qts Mobile 1 75w-90 tranny fluid from autozone. I didn't really need to change it but I wanted to switch to a synthetic and maybe get some smoother shifting. So i searched on here and found that the drain plug (07 manual 2.2) was in the wheel well and the fill hole was on top of the transmission. So i jack up the car and take off the wheel, then (a friend was helping me with this as well) took off the fill plug on top and proceded to remove the drain plug. Let the tranny fluid drain out, and put the drain plug back on tight. Then we stuck a funnel down to the fill hole and put the tranny fluid in. Now even in the manual it says 1.8qts and i remeber reading on here that you basically fill it until it overflows. So we dump in a quart and then start the second waiting for it to start to bubble out, but it never did, got a full 2 quarts in. and then we put the used gear oil in the Mobile 1 bottles and it didnt even fill up one quart I noticed last night and today that it would shift kinda rough now and when im downshifting to make a turn, many times it just wont go into second, ill go from 3 to 2 and it just hits a "wall" and wont go in gear. I'm just curious if i did something wrong? I'm 99% i drained from the correct plug and put it in the right spot. But just in case, here are the pics of the plugs we used: (oh and the fluid that came out was red, just like tranny fluid)



Drain Plug:






Fill Plug:






come on, anyone? i'd like to try and fix this myself so i dont have to go to my friends friend at the dealer and feel like a ******* (he wont void my warranty for some fucked up ****, hell tell me whats wrong or fix it)

all4glh

That drain plug looks like it's too high to me. I thought drain plugs were lower on the case, at least it was on my old Mazda B2600.

steddy2112

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Wow...my fill plug is a cap.

Like on my valve cover for my engine oil...

SSdan

I see where this is going

steddy2112

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No for real it is.

Unless you are saying that he didn't fill it up with anything and drove it around

If that is what you are saying is an understatement.

BigTizzle903

awsome. but there were no other things that could drain fluid. and especially since everything i read said the drain plug was in the wheel well



even better, this looks like its gonna get ugly. and if i really fucked up, no need to flame me guys, because im going to flame myself as it is.

ItalianJoe1

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On the LSJ trans, there is a second plug under where you show, right behind the subframe. You sure there's not one on yours, right?

And why did you use such heavy gear oil, these cars call for a lightweight D4 type fluid, not heavy gear oil.

steddy2112

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The F23 actually calls for auto trans fluid.

BigTizzle903

everything that i read on here said 75w-90 gear oil, which as stated in another thread is approximately 10w-30/40


and as far as i saw, that was the only drain plug

ItalianJoe1

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Says who? Have you ever looked at the two side by side? The weight is a measure of viscosity. Try pouring 1 qt of each fluid through a small funnel, and see which one goes faster. If that was correct, you could pour the 75-90 at the same speed as 10-30, which is NOT going to happen.

You may have damaged the synchros with the incompatible fluid, I'd change it out for the correct stuff and quantity asap.

BigTizzle903

in the other thread, they said that the viscosities were measured different, thats why its got different weights. and when i was pouring it, it seemed about the same consistancy of regular motor oil.


do you guys think i could head over to a dealership and be like, my gears are shifting really rough and second doesnt always go in? think they would cover it?

steddy2112

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Owner's manual says:

Auto tranny fluid dextron(sp?) 3 or any other and reverse compatable auto trans fluid.


Yes auto trans fluid in a manual.








No.

BigTizzle903

sweet, guess im going to have to have to spend some more money. alright, well can anyone tell me if those are the correct drain and fill spots? because i was able to put over 2 quarts in and only took one out

ItalianJoe1

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Not if they wanna be nasty about it and realize that the fluid is all wrong. I know they shouldn't cover it. Seriously, don't believe what you read on-line. Look in the owners manual, see what it says to use, and use that.

Try changing it out for the correct stuff first, before you take it in. May correct the problem. ATF is designed for a certain amount of "slip", it has friction modifiers to work with the drums/bands and clutch packs in an auto. Gear oil is just that, and unless the trans is designed for it, it won't work well on the friction materials.

steddy2112

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Might wanna flush it too.

Buy like 6 quarts of trans fluid.

Leave the drain plug open with a catch pan and run 4 qts through and get the bad pie out of there.

BigTizzle903

alright well ill switch it out asap, but my question is am i filling/draining it in the correct locations?

steddy2112

iTrader: (1)

If I was home I would show you what it looks like under my hood.

The fill cap has a little gear on it and a book with an i on it just like all over the other stuff underhood.

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

You have an auto, right? I've seen that setup on the 4T65s, but not on the manuals. My Chiltons book also says there are 2 plugs on the drivers side. Since you have a fill plug on the top, I'd think you only have one on the side, but look all around the trans for any other 8mm allen plugs that would sit below the one you used already to drain. I assume that if fluid came pouring out when you removed it, it is the drain, otherwise nothing would have happened, but check anyway.

steddy2112

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F23

I would shoot myself if I had an auto

You guys are going to make me go home during break tonight

BlackSS/SC

Your fill plug is the one you drained it out, on the getrag transmission the plug you used to drain is the fill plug. You fill it till it starts running out of that hole. The drain is below the cv shaft. Oh, use dextron fluid in that transmission too. Don't put 75w90 in it. The SS/SC transmission can use Royal Purple 75w90 but not the getrag.

BigTizzle903

when i took the drain plug out red fluid came out. and on top of the tranny there was only one plug there, and it was 8mm (both plugs were 8mm and were the same plug when they came out)

and i just looked it up in the book and it said the 2.2's take manual transaxle fluid, gm part # 88861800

so then the fill and drain plug are one in the same? then what was with the plug on top of the tranny?

ItalianJoe1

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See, you should have used that fluid or found something equivalent. What GM calls manual transaxle fluid has thier own part #, so its not just normal on the shelf axle lube.


Not on your car. Like I said, on the LSJ trans there are 2 plugs on the side, the one you used as a drain is our fill location, with another one further down the diff housing to use as a drain.

BlackSS/SC

Added a pic up there in my post

XM15

Since you have an '07, I believe you need Dexron IV ATF.

The '05s and '06s used Dexron III ATF, but GM switched for the '07s.

BlackSS/SC

This is what alldata says about the fluid:
Fill the transmission with DEXRON(R)-III transmission fluid Saturn P/N 21019223, until even with the bottom of the fill plug hole.