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Old 05-19-2008, 09:04 PM
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ok, so there are 2 plugs on the side. the one i used to drain is actually the fill plug and there is another one farther down that i didnt see that actually is the drain. alright. got it. and are you guys 100% positive that its atf i need to be using even though the manual calls for manual transaxle fluid?

come on guys, does anyone know what i did? lol. im freakin out right now.

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Ill bet that the plug you poured into still goes into your tranny, taking note that it does say F23 next to it.. I think that its shifting hard because its too heavy and too much. Drain, flush and try again.
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alright good stuff, im not freaking out so bad anymore because i see what i did. and im hoping that the tranny can withstand about 20-30 mile stomorrow of driving (not gunning it, easy driving) to get to school, the dr, and autozone.

now i just need to know what i should pick up at autozone, mtf, atf? ill ask a tech to look it up when i get there but what would you guys suggest?
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Dexron IV. Just walk in and tell em you need dex 4. They will have it on the shelf. I would say **** school and go to autozone first tho. If you dont believe, call the dealership and ask for service. They will look it up for yah. Anything is gonna be better than what youve got in there now.
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so walk in, ask for some dex4 atf, and ill get like 3-4 quarts of it so i can flush the tranny as well. you guys think it will work?

and i have to go to school so i have no choice in the matter, it has to be driven. and now are we sure it takes atf and not mtf?
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It takes ATF.

read your damn owners manual.



Damn.
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Dex 4 is dex 4. Period. The end. You dont have to say atf or any **** like that. Ive used dex in hydraulics on graders as well as brakes, etc.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
It takes ATF.

read your damn owners manual.



Damn.
the owners manual says manual transaxle fluid, thats why im asking.

so basically if i flush the tranny and put some dex4 in instead i should be alright?


and driving it like 30 miles tomorrow wont make it blow up or anything, maybe a little damage im aware of that, but not blow up right? lol

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If your tranny seizes...you are boned.

Do it tonight.

Borrow someone else's car to go get the stuff.

AAP is usually open til 10
Old 05-19-2008, 09:34 PM
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i have no choice, it has to be driven. ill just drive it nice and easy.


i dont think the tranny would seize from a little extra fluid?
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If you are going to drive it either way, why are you worried?

Just do it.

Fix it, she will be better, with a little extra wear

If you car starts to sound supercharged, worry.
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This is almost like asking if you put 9 quarts of oil in your engine but it only requires 5 if it's ok to drive it 20 miles, even if you drive it easy. Either way, you are taking a chance.
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i will start to worry if it sounds weird, but im talking to my friend and hes like dont put atf in a manual car, "its the stupediest thing ive ever heard"

so now my question is, are you guys 100% positive its automatic transmission fluid that i need to put in??
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Originally Posted by BigTizzle903
i will start to worry if it sounds weird, but im talking to my friend and hes like dont put atf in a manual car, "its the stupediest thing ive ever heard"

so now my question is, are you guys 100% positive its automatic transmission fluid that i need to put in??
I'm done.
Old 05-19-2008, 09:43 PM
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and also, will a chevy dealer have the oe factory stuff available there? my friends dad owns a body shop connected to a chevy dealer so i could probably get the factory stuff for cheap, but i want to get something tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by BigTizzle903
i will start to worry if it sounds weird, but im talking to my friend and hes like dont put atf in a manual car, "its the stupediest thing ive ever heard"

so now my question is, are you guys 100% positive its automatic transmission fluid that i need to put in??
Yes, its not uncommon, its been done for years in many cars. Most new cars use some type of lightweight ATF like fluid in the manual transmissions. Tell your friend to do a little research.

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and also, will a chevy dealer have the oe factory stuff available there? my friends dad owns a body shop connected to a chevy dealer so i could probably get the factory stuff for cheap, but i want to get something tomorrow.
They should, call and ask. If they don't, they can tell you what dealer does or order it in and have it next day most likely.

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I'm done.
Haha, smart man. Me too.

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:47 PM
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alright, well im gonna see if they have any friends next door at the dealership that want a little extra cash on the side and see if hell just flush it and replace it for me.
Old 05-19-2008, 10:34 PM
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Yea i wouldnt put that in an f-23 trans. I used it in my f35 and it worked better than factory. But definitley not for something that calls for ATF.

You wont ruin your syncros if u drive 20 miles unless the weight differential is THAT much different. A flush IS in order.
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its deffinitly atf, itll be dexron VI. there is no such thing as dexron 4, gm went from dex 3 H spec to dex 6. they skipped to 6 because it was a fluid designed specificly for the new gm 6 speed automatics.
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Yup. ATF all the way. Don't mind your friend. lol

Originally Posted by Sharkey
its deffinitly atf, itll be dexron VI. there is no such thing as dexron 4, gm went from dex 3 H spec to dex 6. they skipped to 6 because it was a fluid designed specificly for the new gm 6 speed automatics.
Oh. I had the "I" on the wrong side of the "V".



Stupid Roman numerals. lol

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I did a "how-to" in the forums however some mod decided not to allow it, im guessing because i used the wrong fluid for our trans.

pft... anyway here is what you should see.



You need a smaller wrench if it is like the f-35



Has to be shorter than the 8mm socket version



Dont be nubie like me and put the jack stand too close to the wheel or you will have to use a funnel.

Btw, to the mod that denied the how-to...

nevermind, im just going to leave it at that
Old 05-20-2008, 06:27 PM
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thanks man but im having a friend down at a dealer flush my tranny tomorrow off the books so i dont lose any warranty. and he said it is manual transaxle fluid, gm part number 88861800
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I just read my 05 book says DEX 3 ATF
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Oh by god how do you mess up a drain and refill? I'd understand if it had a pan to drop, but jeeezzz its soooo straightforward.



And i have seen a few people say to flush the trans in here... Im telling you NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DO NOT EVER FLUSH THE TRANS.... those tranny flush machines will blow out seals and stuff. We see it ALL the time, at least once a week, coming in from other local shops!


And never overfill trans fluid, dont go by "til when it bubbles out" noo if it says 1.8, and has no dipstick to measure, then you better be damn sure you measure what you put in there!! You should see Chrysler has a crazy system where you have to read the level with a scanner but lets not even go there...

And DONT drive it, unless you want to pay $1,200 - $2,500 (depending on where you bring it) to have the trans rebuilt shortly on down the road. Theres no such thing as just a little harmless damage to your trans - a "little" will escalate into something major very quickly. It doesnt HAVE to be driven, do something else, and tell your buddies with their "help" to f off because obviously they dont know any better either!


I say just drain like shown above, refill with the CORRECT amount of CORRECT fluid, and you should be fine. Oh, and did I say to NOT drive it? yeh. =)
Old 05-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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well i talked to the mechanic, and he said its alright to drive a couple miles until he does it tomorrow. so tomorrow, he will be draining whats in there and filling it with the correct stuff, all i have to do is drive to school and the shop, a total of 10 miles or so. and if there is a problem, its being done off the books with the correct stuff so as far as gm is concerned its still warrantied
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