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06-29-2008, 11:21 PM
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06-30-2008, 01:31 AM
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ever herd of db drag? or possibly streetbeat in usaci
they make them as big as 18s to but since ur the one saying "oo people hit 155s with tens"... those are the subs they use.
and most spl competitors agree its really all in the install. Do you really think the pioneer spl champion speakers are the best just because they are used in the loudest vehicle ever? No scott owens is just a badass installer and built a crazy box in a crazy car.
they make them as big as 18s to but since ur the one saying "oo people hit 155s with tens"... those are the subs they use.
and most spl competitors agree its really all in the install. Do you really think the pioneer spl champion speakers are the best just because they are used in the loudest vehicle ever? No scott owens is just a badass installer and built a crazy box in a crazy car.
06-30-2008, 03:44 PM
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I have heard of the db drags..
I have seen some guy with two 18 tc sounds with 2 amps to each sub.. He is hitting 159 db something like that now
bigger isnt always better lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZv96...eature=related
I have seen some guy with two 18 tc sounds with 2 amps to each sub.. He is hitting 159 db something like that now
bigger isnt always better lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZv96...eature=related
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06-30-2008, 05:51 PM
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ever herd of db drag? or possibly streetbeat in usaci
they make them as big as 18s to but since ur the one saying "oo people hit 155s with tens"... those are the subs they use.
I was using the 10's reference as just that, a reference compared to your 15.
and most spl competitors agree its really all in the install. Do you really think the pioneer spl champion speakers are the best just because they are used in the loudest vehicle ever? No scott owens is just a badass installer and built a crazy box in a crazy car.
they make them as big as 18s to but since ur the one saying "oo people hit 155s with tens"... those are the subs they use.
I was using the 10's reference as just that, a reference compared to your 15.
and most spl competitors agree its really all in the install. Do you really think the pioneer spl champion speakers are the best just because they are used in the loudest vehicle ever? No scott owens is just a badass installer and built a crazy box in a crazy car.
It is a give and take method of products mixed with install, but the key is to move the most amount of air, period.
You can't mix apples and oranges when making comparisons. Your theory of the vented
8" sub being louder than the 15" sealed sub, although you're still smoking crack on that one, isn't a fair comparison.
What would be fair is to take your DD Z 10, in the perfect enclosure, and compare it to a DD Z 18 in a perfect enclosure and see which one is louder and plays lower.
If you honestly think the 10 will compete with the 18, all things being equal, slap yourself in the face...hard.
07-01-2008, 02:50 AM
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correct now take that theory and apply it to the jackhammer. the enclosure it would require would be so massive that it requires a giant vehicle to be trashed along with a ton of time and materials to build a single box for a single sub. If you **** up once too bad because this 60k suv is now filled with holes for giant bolts, expanding foam, wood up the ass ect ect.
Last time i checked one competitor had the jackahmmer and couldnt get above a 150 with it. Still trying
also spl competitions have different classes and such to keep things on a decently fair level for all those involved. If i bring my 10 against ur 18 that isnt really fair is it? So db drag has classes on sub size.... Usaci has rules on amp power. u can do so much with 1kw and i do the same and see whos louder. alot more goes into SPL comps then what sub u use. Plus the air pressure meters dont care about freq... Most DB drag competitors tune to 55-60 because more pressure is made in those situations. Will u be able to play music on it not really but u get the trophy. Usaci is alot closer to 45hz since u can open the cabin. Even then alot of rap and such plays lower then that
Last time i checked one competitor had the jackahmmer and couldnt get above a 150 with it. Still trying
also spl competitions have different classes and such to keep things on a decently fair level for all those involved. If i bring my 10 against ur 18 that isnt really fair is it? So db drag has classes on sub size.... Usaci has rules on amp power. u can do so much with 1kw and i do the same and see whos louder. alot more goes into SPL comps then what sub u use. Plus the air pressure meters dont care about freq... Most DB drag competitors tune to 55-60 because more pressure is made in those situations. Will u be able to play music on it not really but u get the trophy. Usaci is alot closer to 45hz since u can open the cabin. Even then alot of rap and such plays lower then that
07-01-2008, 10:43 AM
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correct now take that theory and apply it to the jackhammer. the enclosure it would require would be so massive that it requires a giant vehicle to be trashed along with a ton of time and materials to build a single box for a single sub. If you **** up once too bad because this 60k suv is now filled with holes for giant bolts, expanding foam, wood up the ass ect ect.
Last time i checked one competitor had the jackahmmer and couldnt get above a 150 with it. Still trying
also spl competitions have different classes and such to keep things on a decently fair level for all those involved. If i bring my 10 against ur 18 that isnt really fair is it? So db drag has classes on sub size.... Usaci has rules on amp power. u can do so much with 1kw and i do the same and see whos louder. alot more goes into SPL comps then what sub u use. Plus the air pressure meters dont care about freq... Most DB drag competitors tune to 55-60 because more pressure is made in those situations. Will u be able to play music on it not really but u get the trophy. Usaci is alot closer to 45hz since u can open the cabin. Even then alot of rap and such plays lower then that
Last time i checked one competitor had the jackahmmer and couldnt get above a 150 with it. Still trying
also spl competitions have different classes and such to keep things on a decently fair level for all those involved. If i bring my 10 against ur 18 that isnt really fair is it? So db drag has classes on sub size.... Usaci has rules on amp power. u can do so much with 1kw and i do the same and see whos louder. alot more goes into SPL comps then what sub u use. Plus the air pressure meters dont care about freq... Most DB drag competitors tune to 55-60 because more pressure is made in those situations. Will u be able to play music on it not really but u get the trophy. Usaci is alot closer to 45hz since u can open the cabin. Even then alot of rap and such plays lower then that
So you agree...about time
I still dont see how you keep referring to the box size. 8 cubic feet in an SUV is relatively small.
But anyhow, Im done arguing...Im out of my bass days anyway...
07-02-2008, 12:27 AM
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true i have the very similar oldvRE XXX and i love it.... but adire is gone so
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07-02-2008, 12:29 AM
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07-02-2008, 01:54 PM
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and yeah adire audio has been gone for years, they kick you over to http://www.creativesound.ca
and i also heard that Elemental Designs will re-cone them for you.
Oh and b4 you mentioned eD having problems in the past? i would like to know what they were.
07-02-2008, 11:55 PM
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LOL shows how much im ontop of things, i was still under the impression that the XXX was still using the same motor and spider assembly as the brahma.
and yeah adire audio has been gone for years, they kick you over to http://www.creativesound.ca
and i also heard that Elemental Designs will re-cone them for you.
Oh and b4 you mentioned eD having problems in the past? i would like to know what they were.
and yeah adire audio has been gone for years, they kick you over to http://www.creativesound.ca
and i also heard that Elemental Designs will re-cone them for you.
Oh and b4 you mentioned eD having problems in the past? i would like to know what they were.
The XXX changed in 06 because RE was bought out and terms of the deal was they were no longer allowed to use the XBL2 technology used in the old XXX