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10-21-2006, 03:27 AM
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lol everyone calm down and breath in... lol take a look at my thread i posted similar ones on the usaci forum, rf forum and a seperate forum... pretty much everyone has said im crazy and im going to be putting to many speakers... lol i agreed so ima tone it down some but still if thats what you want and what you like then do it. Audio to me is alot like speed to alot of people here... ya i like going fast but im not about to spend thousands of dollars to go a second quicker. maybe to get a db louder thou
10-21-2006, 12:25 PM
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the box it only about a half a cube smaller than it requires remember the box contours to the floor so theres no more spair and the battery is sitting to to side of the box very inconveniant so im gonna try to build a storage compartment on the left side so that i have a spair
10-21-2006, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
the box it only about a half a cube smaller than it requires remember the box contours to the floor so theres no more spair and the battery is sitting to to side of the box very inconveniant so im gonna try to build a storage compartment on the left side so that i have a spair
10-21-2006, 01:29 PM
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Heres my system WHAT NOW i got the biggest ***** of them all
6x jl1000/1
1 MTX JACKHAMMER BIOTCHS
and its custom molded into my truck and the amps are custom molded into my boddy
6x jl1000/1
1 MTX JACKHAMMER BIOTCHS
and its custom molded into my truck and the amps are custom molded into my boddy
10-21-2006, 03:41 PM
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ohhhh ok its hard to tell in the pic haha. damn ill admit it.....sorry for doubting you. haha was just hard to beleive it would even fit in there. cause like i said my 12 barley fits.
10-21-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyw
im going to get tired of posting in this thread so im out. im not going to beat a dead horse anymore. If you want to correct me your going to have to correct that site first. Not that i need the site anyways i can just go measure the subs and crap.
I can now see why you're confused.
11-02-2006, 10:34 PM
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jensen makes nice stuff i think yes there H/U are bottom line but they work and there cheap.
hey jack what kind of 18 do you have and do you have any pics?
hey jack what kind of 18 do you have and do you have any pics?
11-03-2006, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
18" = sloppy bass
at the DB drags this summer i've ssen so many 15" and 18" subs taunting guys turn around and run home crying becasue they were beat out by guys running super clean 12 and 10" systems....
Me, i prefer 2-10"... i listen to too much metal to have sloppy subs in my trunk...
at the DB drags this summer i've ssen so many 15" and 18" subs taunting guys turn around and run home crying becasue they were beat out by guys running super clean 12 and 10" systems....
Me, i prefer 2-10"... i listen to too much metal to have sloppy subs in my trunk...
11-03-2006, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by aj_92rs
It's rather obvious that whoever designed that program for MTX didn't take into account that JL measures their X-max in inches while Kicker uses millimeters.
I can now see why you're confused.
I can now see why you're confused.
He used 8.385x8.385x3.14 = 220.78 ~ 221 in^2
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WOW. Your calculations are way off.
If, in fact, the 18" square sub has a surface area of 16.77" (as you say it does), then 16.77" x 16.77" = 281.2329 square inches, not 221.
Then multiplying that by the 3rd dimension (.22) would equal 61.871238 cubic inches.
But, according to the Kicker website, that particular sub has an Xmax of 24.88 mm, which equals .9622" and would put the volume at 269.983584 cubic inches.
I'm not even going to try to correct the rest because it doesn't matter. This response time you speak so highly of is meaningless when it comes to SPL. In order for a speaker to produce a 60 Hz frequency, it has to move 60 times, for and aft, per second. It doesn't matter if it's an 8" speaker or a 22" speaker. It still has to move that fast. The wattage is what determines how far the speaker moves, for and aft, and increases the intensity of the sound (aka SPL). Max excursion is how far the speaker will move before reaching its mechanical limits. It has nothing to do with "response time". It only limits how much said woofer can move before it tries to jump out of its own basket. If you'd like to improve the "response time" of any sub, put it in a smaller box. That alone will raise the Q of the speaker.
The fact is that this particular 18" sub (whether round or square) will displace more air than two JL Audio 12" subs that you're referring to, which I believe is what you had originally stated was not true.
If, in fact, the 18" square sub has a surface area of 16.77" (as you say it does), then 16.77" x 16.77" = 281.2329 square inches, not 221.
Then multiplying that by the 3rd dimension (.22) would equal 61.871238 cubic inches.
But, according to the Kicker website, that particular sub has an Xmax of 24.88 mm, which equals .9622" and would put the volume at 269.983584 cubic inches.
I'm not even going to try to correct the rest because it doesn't matter. This response time you speak so highly of is meaningless when it comes to SPL. In order for a speaker to produce a 60 Hz frequency, it has to move 60 times, for and aft, per second. It doesn't matter if it's an 8" speaker or a 22" speaker. It still has to move that fast. The wattage is what determines how far the speaker moves, for and aft, and increases the intensity of the sound (aka SPL). Max excursion is how far the speaker will move before reaching its mechanical limits. It has nothing to do with "response time". It only limits how much said woofer can move before it tries to jump out of its own basket. If you'd like to improve the "response time" of any sub, put it in a smaller box. That alone will raise the Q of the speaker.
The fact is that this particular 18" sub (whether round or square) will displace more air than two JL Audio 12" subs that you're referring to, which I believe is what you had originally stated was not true.
11-03-2006, 08:18 PM
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most people say that the solo x sounds like **** this is because there ears are starting to blow from all pressure.
for how big the sub is it hits all the notes but dont get me wrong it doesnt sound like w7's and for all the extra weight its really not worth it in such a little car thats why im thinking of moving it over to my cherokee and and putting my 2 13w7's back in and maybe also get a re xxx
for how big the sub is it hits all the notes but dont get me wrong it doesnt sound like w7's and for all the extra weight its really not worth it in such a little car thats why im thinking of moving it over to my cherokee and and putting my 2 13w7's back in and maybe also get a re xxx
11-03-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
Says the person who used 16.77x16.77 to calculate the area of a circle...he never said it was a square sub, you assumed that.
He used 8.385x8.385x3.14 = 220.78 ~ 221 in^2
He used 8.385x8.385x3.14 = 220.78 ~ 221 in^2
Please explain yourself if you'd like to discuss this. Otherwise lose the one-liners.
11-03-2006, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
most people say that the solo x sounds like **** this is because there ears are starting to blow from all pressure.
11-04-2006, 02:12 AM
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true but the fact that its a square sub is why no one would use it for sq applications... square is great for spl but in terms of sq it will never be able to do as well as equal round woofers... and no im not jsut trying to hate on kicker or your setup or what not... same thing applies to triangle woofers, sony's hex woofers or whatever they got, and even 6X9, 5X7, 6X8 ect speakers
11-04-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aj_92rs
What are you talking about?
Please explain yourself if you'd like to discuss this. Otherwise lose the one-liners.
Please explain yourself if you'd like to discuss this. Otherwise lose the one-liners.
11-05-2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
You called him the confused one when you were the one that made a mistake. I was just pointing it out. There is no need to be an ass about it and
BTW, I'm an American. I have the right to be an ass anytime I like.
11-06-2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aj_92rs
What mistake did I make?
BTW, I'm an American. I have the right to be an ass anytime I like.
BTW, I'm an American. I have the right to be an ass anytime I like.
I'm also American
11-06-2006, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
You used 16.77x16.77 to find area. That is for a square. The area for a circle would have been 8.385x8.385x3.14, which he used.
I'm also American
I'm also American
11-07-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
That's not what he was comparing. Go back and read the whole thing.
I'm out.
I'm out.
11-07-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mesatrin
the solo X is the only sub that Kicker makes in an 18, so you can assume it is going to be a square. The Coms, comp vr and comp vx's all only go up to 15" and those are all of the circle subs. There may be something really old out there from kicker that is an 18" circle but nothing recent.
We are/were doing a specific speaker comparison, not a generalized comparison.
If we were doing a general comparison then I can understand your squabble, cawpin.