Shane08

I was wondering if I bought a stock amp and the ss radio if there would be harnesses already in my car for the amp some cars have the harnesses incase you want to upgrade? Also if not does anyone know where I can buy the wires to hook up the stock amp to stock headunit?? thanks

07cobalt4life

just get an aftermarket amp

lightsout

Yes you can, I have done that with my pioneer D3 head unit.

Shane08

i was gonna buy a d3 but i love the look of stock....and i dont want an aftermarket amp cuz aftermarket amp plus stock hu sucks....so can i hook up the amp?? will there be a harness?

lightsout

Ok I think I misread your post. I thought you wanted to connect a non stock HU to the stock Amp. So from what I gather now, you want to buy and stock cobalt Amp and hook it up to a system that doesn't have the Pioneer setup. I think there you might have problems, plus I don't think you could buy the stock Amp. Your best best would be to buy an aftermarket Amp.

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

sure its possible and getting the harness to connect from ther stereo to the hu would be difficult but you could do it. only probelem is the fact that you need 2 more connectors for it. plus your speakers are 4 ohm stock where the pioneers are 2 ohm. so ud only get half power anyway.

so can it be done yes. but a cheaper better louder alternative is an aftermarket amp. or even better buy new door speakers.

Shane08

well i was jsut thinking stock amp cuz i want the stock sub....tryin to save trunk space

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

think of a small 5 channel and wire the stock sub in series 4 ohm. As much as people hate to hear this the stock system isn't necessarily bad but its a bitch to interface and personally going aftermarket not only gives you better equipment "most" of the time but also its easy to work with.

Shane08

you think it would sound good with an after markety amp? and stock sub? with stock hu?

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

alot better then a stock amp. that lil thing is pretty whimpy

Shane08

ok cool what amp you reccomend? cuz i wanna jsut use a stock hu and stock sub to save trunk space

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

with anything your using to power mids you want to go with something quality. Id look into the alpine v-powers personally because they are nice amps but any of the bigger name brands should work

Shane08

will 400 watts be enough for the stock sub?

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

400w rms will blow the stock sub. max i would do is 150. Its not that big

Shane08

what happens if i get liek a 400 w and hook up some 6x9s and sub? idk help me out here man im not too good with wattage

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

not really. Sub needs a low pass crossover making the 6X9s useless if on the same channel of amp. mind you a 5 channel normally isnt super powerful on the sub channel and you'd be at 4 ohms. you can also get a mono block and it would be at half available power (4 ohms rated power)

crumba

keep the stock pioneer system all the speakers are fine they sound great and have crossovers. if you want more base get a line level converter to replace the 10 inch pioneer sub. i did that in mine with a Rockford t5002 amp and 2 12 inch p2 subs p3s would have blown my trunk lid off it was like 600 watts total power for the subs. it sounds amazing and that's not just my opinion its the opinion of over 20 cobalt ss owners and the owner of weebee audio. you can put what ever amp and sub you want in it. they make car specific enclosures. if you do replace the head unit you will need a 100.00 dollar ecu adapter all new gms need them

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

but he doesnt have the stock system. and no you dont need the 100 dollar adapter on all new GMs

Shane08

so you reccomond a mono block?? cuz im jsut gonna get the line output converter and hook the amp up that way.. how mig do i need then? also how much would i have to spend for a decent one

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

you would need a line output converter regardless... just depending on what amp you get depends on how many you need.

what are you looking to power? are you leaving the stock LS speakers and going with only the stock pioneer sub/ aftermarket amp

Shane08

the plan is jsut a stock sub....would it be hard to power the 6x9s as well?? or is it not worth it? shoud i jsut buy new speakers? sorry for all the questions

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

powering the 6X9s is probably the easiest. but you would need a 4 channel to do so (2 channels for the 6X9s and the other 2 bridged for the sub). Swapping speakers is a better start.

Shane08

ok cool how many watts you reccomond for a 4 channel?? because I will be amping the new 6x9s in the future...but will amp the sub first for sure then amp the new speakers once i get them. Woudl jsut liek to get the four channel incase i go that route

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

something like 60 or 70X4

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=F

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/produ...n_US&p_status=

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entert...fiers/KAC-8404

kicker 350.4 http://www.kicker.com/06/kicker_home.html

Militant_Jurist

I thought the stock amp was a 270w, 6 channel amp?