Does anyone know the exact configuration of the SS S/C 7 Speaker Stereo
#26
do you know whats for the b3 line in the harness the pinout said is for remote radio control signal but i dont know where to atach this line on my aftermarket hu because the radio on signal b6 is atached to the remote line on my hu its an IVA w200 alpine.
#27
I posted in general already, but I would like to put in a cd/cassette double din deck. I have the 7 speaker Pioneer system. It sounds like this may be a HUGE undertaking due to the various issues of amp/hookups/DIC stuff. If it isnt a big deal, please pass along the info that my installers would need to know. I am a bit scared to buy a unit, take it too them, they give me a quote for installation and then find out it will be $1000 more than expected due to various obstacles.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Calgden
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As far as the head unit goes, contrary to everything I have ready, it does not appear to be GM-LAN. I actually removed and disconnected the radio and did not lose door chimes, blinker click-clack, keyless entry, driver information or anything of that nature. - That is a pleasant surprise. Can anyone else confirm? If that's the case, based on the fact that it doesn't have an RCA pre-out, I may have to look at replacing it.
Thanks for the info gents. Any info is good info.
I am quite happy to hear about he head-unit though... I didn't want to look at relocating the deck.
As far as the head unit goes, contrary to everything I have ready, it does not appear to be GM-LAN. I actually removed and disconnected the radio and did not lose door chimes, blinker click-clack, keyless entry, driver information or anything of that nature. - That is a pleasant surprise. Can anyone else confirm? If that's the case, based on the fact that it doesn't have an RCA pre-out, I may have to look at replacing it.
Thanks for the info gents. Any info is good info.
I am quite happy to hear about he head-unit though... I didn't want to look at relocating the deck.
I learned that if you do not have XM Radio or ONSTAR then you just remove the radio and put asside. everything will work. If you have XM Radio or Onstar and of course if you have both then the radio has to be put under the dash or in the trunk. their are wiring kits to do this. what the kit accoplishes is that it keeps other electronics running that is tied into the radio. pain in the ass, kits are about 50 to 100 bucks.
hope that helps.
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um, do none of you guys search? I think I see these questions every week. I've replaced the Stock radio (no XM, No Onstar) on a 05 LS. Pulled it and wired in the enw one, kept the steering wheel controls, put in a 4 channel amp for the corners and a self powered sub in the trunk. No issues.
For working on My SS/SC I have onstar and XM. all of this can be kept with a Best kit, don't know the number right now. but it is for the malibu and G6 with DIC in radio. (we will not be using the second DIC though) And then I can keep all my options and get a new radio. I will be powering all corners with a amp, and installing a new sub/amp combo. i will be bypassing the factory amp.
If you want I will get Numbers for everyone.
For working on My SS/SC I have onstar and XM. all of this can be kept with a Best kit, don't know the number right now. but it is for the malibu and G6 with DIC in radio. (we will not be using the second DIC though) And then I can keep all my options and get a new radio. I will be powering all corners with a amp, and installing a new sub/amp combo. i will be bypassing the factory amp.
If you want I will get Numbers for everyone.
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Do what do you do to wire in the second connector off of the factory harness to a pioneer radio. I found that if that isn't plugged in, then it doesn't work. Instant I throw the factory radio back in... blamo... It works. Is that what that stupid 100 part is for, to connect those extra 6 pins? I have the 7 speaker pioneer system with onstar and XM. I don't care about XM or onstar... just the speakers. I don't care about the sub in the trunk, I am swapping that out with my own setup.
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Not to dig up an old thread but if I were to replace the factory sub with a 10" with acceptable dimensions for the stock sub box is this possible? I think I may just leave it and replace the rest of the component speakers. I don't want to replace the deck as I like the way it flows with the rest of the dash which means tapping into the rear speakers with an amp that supports high output. Its more work then it seems. But ya, can that sub be swapped out?
#37
I dunno if this will be of help to anyone but I was researched and came across a deck install kit that solves all the problems for the xm radio, door chimes, the LAN system for the dash board and everything. Its a little pricey but its a simple install and solves all problems. Its the nicest deck install kits I've ever seen. Its made by Scoshe. Heres the website.
http://www.scosche.com/scosche_carau...ItemID=GM1593B
http://www.scosche.com/scosche_carau...ItemID=GM1593B
#38
Basically what I am wanting to do is throw another (or take out the old sub) sub in the mix. Something small. However; I want to keep the stock deck. I don't want to have to run new wires to the front so that the amp switches on when I turn the deck on. I tried this and ran into feedback issues. Anyway of installing a new sub with a new amp without any of this?
Thanks!
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Amplifier and Radio pinouts, circuit ID's, color codes:
Audio Amp. Connector1
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110088
• 24-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (GY)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A1
L-GN/BK
1794
Left/Rear Subwoofer Speaker (-)
A2
D-BU/WH
346
Left/Rear Subwoofer Speaker (+)
A3
L-BU/BK
115
Right Rear Speaker Signal (-)
A4
D-BU
46
Right Rear Speaker (+)
A5
BN
199
Left Rear Speaker (+)
A6
YE/BK
116
Left Rear Speaker Signal (-)
A7
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal
A8
BN/WH
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal
A9
TN
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio (-)
A10
BN
1999
Left Rear Low Level Audio (-)
A11
D-GN
117
Right Front Speaker Signal (-) (1)
A12
L-GN
200
Right Front Speaker (+) (1)
B1
L-BU/BK
315
Right Subwoofer Speaker (-)
B2
D-GN
1795
Right Subwoofer Speaker (+)
B3
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio (-)
B4
L-GN
1948
Right Front Low Level Audio (-)
B5
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal
B6
L-GN/WH
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal
B7-B10
--
--
Not Used
B11
GY
118
Left Front Speaker Signal (-) (1)
B12
TN
201
Left Front Speaker (+) (1)
Audio Amplifier Connector2 (UQ3)
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110626
• 8-Way F Metri-Pack 280 Series (L-GY)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
B
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
C
--
--
Not Used
D
L-GN
1011
Remote Radio Control Signal
E
PK
314
Radio On Signal
F
--
--
Not Used
G
RD/WH
640
Battery Positive Voltage
H
RD/WH
640
Battery Positive Voltage
Radio C1
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110206
• Service: See Catalog
• 24-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (L-BU)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A1
GY
118
Left Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)
A1
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A2
TN
201
Left Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)
A2
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A3
L-BU
115
Right Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)
A3
TN
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A4
D-BU
46
Right Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)
A4
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A5
BN
199
Left Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)
A5
BN/WH
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A6
YE
116
Left Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)
A6
BN
1999
Left Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A7
L-GN
200
Right Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)
A7
L-GN/WH
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A8
D-GN
117
Right Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)
A8
L-GN
1948
Right Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A9
D-BU
1796
Steering Column Radio Control Signal (UK3)
A10
WH/BK
644
10-Volt Reference (US8)
A11
--
--
Not Used
A12
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
B1
RD/WH
1140
Battery Positive Voltage
B2
--
--
Not Used
B3
L-GN
1011
Remote Radio Control Signal (US8)
B4-B5
--
--
Not Used
B6
PK
314
Radio On Signal
B7-B8
--
--
Not Used
B9
D-GN
5060
Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data
B10-B12
--
--
Not Used
Radio Connector2
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12064799
• 12-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (BK)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A-G
--
--
Not Used
H
D-GN/WH
368
Right Audio Signal (+)
J
BN/WH
367
Left Audio Signal (+)
K
TN/WH
372
Audio Common
L
OG/BK
2061
Cellular telephone voice Low Reference (UE1)
M
PK/BK
2062
Cellular Telephone Voice Signal (UE1)
relevant RPO descriptions:
UK3
Control, Steering Wheel, Accessory
UN0
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Auto Tone, Clock, ETR
UQ3
Speaker System, Performance Enhanced Audio
UQ4
Speaker System, 4, Base
US8
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Auto Tone, Clock, ETR, MP3, RDS
U1C
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Clock, ETR
U2K
Digital Audio System S-Band
UE1
Communication System, Vehicle, G.P.S. 1
the radio DOES communicate on the Lowspeed GM-LAN line, it recieves VIN information for TheftLok, illumination dimming inputs, and signal for speed compensated volume.
Some audio functions are available using the steering wheel controls. The steering wheel controls are actually a resistor network which consists of multiple momentary contact switches and a series of resistors. The switches and resistor network is arranged so that each switch has a different resistance value. When a switch is pressed, a voltage drop occurs in the resistor network which produces a specific voltage value unique to the switch selected. These specific voltage values allow the radio to identify which switch has been pressed. The radio responds just as if the corresponding radio front panel button had been pressed.When the radio is ON, the radio supplies approximately 10 volts to the switches on the 10-volt reference circuit. The specific voltage signal from the switch is returned to the radio on the steering wheel controls signal circuit.This may inhibit the use of the redundant control with an aftermarket head unit.
(Gm Service Information 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt)
Some of you may have been aware of this information, many of you may not have, hope it helps any who need it.
Audio Amp. Connector1
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110088
• 24-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (GY)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A1
L-GN/BK
1794
Left/Rear Subwoofer Speaker (-)
A2
D-BU/WH
346
Left/Rear Subwoofer Speaker (+)
A3
L-BU/BK
115
Right Rear Speaker Signal (-)
A4
D-BU
46
Right Rear Speaker (+)
A5
BN
199
Left Rear Speaker (+)
A6
YE/BK
116
Left Rear Speaker Signal (-)
A7
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal
A8
BN/WH
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal
A9
TN
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio (-)
A10
BN
1999
Left Rear Low Level Audio (-)
A11
D-GN
117
Right Front Speaker Signal (-) (1)
A12
L-GN
200
Right Front Speaker (+) (1)
B1
L-BU/BK
315
Right Subwoofer Speaker (-)
B2
D-GN
1795
Right Subwoofer Speaker (+)
B3
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio (-)
B4
L-GN
1948
Right Front Low Level Audio (-)
B5
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal
B6
L-GN/WH
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal
B7-B10
--
--
Not Used
B11
GY
118
Left Front Speaker Signal (-) (1)
B12
TN
201
Left Front Speaker (+) (1)
Audio Amplifier Connector2 (UQ3)
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110626
• 8-Way F Metri-Pack 280 Series (L-GY)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
B
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
C
--
--
Not Used
D
L-GN
1011
Remote Radio Control Signal
E
PK
314
Radio On Signal
F
--
--
Not Used
G
RD/WH
640
Battery Positive Voltage
H
RD/WH
640
Battery Positive Voltage
Radio C1
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110206
• Service: See Catalog
• 24-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (L-BU)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A1
GY
118
Left Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)
A1
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A2
TN
201
Left Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)
A2
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A3
L-BU
115
Right Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)
A3
TN
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A4
D-BU
46
Right Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)
A4
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A5
BN
199
Left Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)
A5
BN/WH
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A6
YE
116
Left Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)
A6
BN
1999
Left Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A7
L-GN
200
Right Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)
A7
L-GN/WH
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)
A8
D-GN
117
Right Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)
A8
L-GN
1948
Right Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)
A9
D-BU
1796
Steering Column Radio Control Signal (UK3)
A10
WH/BK
644
10-Volt Reference (US8)
A11
--
--
Not Used
A12
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground
B1
RD/WH
1140
Battery Positive Voltage
B2
--
--
Not Used
B3
L-GN
1011
Remote Radio Control Signal (US8)
B4-B5
--
--
Not Used
B6
PK
314
Radio On Signal
B7-B8
--
--
Not Used
B9
D-GN
5060
Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data
B10-B12
--
--
Not Used
Radio Connector2
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12064799
• 12-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (BK)
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
A-G
--
--
Not Used
H
D-GN/WH
368
Right Audio Signal (+)
J
BN/WH
367
Left Audio Signal (+)
K
TN/WH
372
Audio Common
L
OG/BK
2061
Cellular telephone voice Low Reference (UE1)
M
PK/BK
2062
Cellular Telephone Voice Signal (UE1)
relevant RPO descriptions:
UK3
Control, Steering Wheel, Accessory
UN0
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Auto Tone, Clock, ETR
UQ3
Speaker System, Performance Enhanced Audio
UQ4
Speaker System, 4, Base
US8
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Auto Tone, Clock, ETR, MP3, RDS
U1C
Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, CD, Clock, ETR
U2K
Digital Audio System S-Band
UE1
Communication System, Vehicle, G.P.S. 1
the radio DOES communicate on the Lowspeed GM-LAN line, it recieves VIN information for TheftLok, illumination dimming inputs, and signal for speed compensated volume.
Some audio functions are available using the steering wheel controls. The steering wheel controls are actually a resistor network which consists of multiple momentary contact switches and a series of resistors. The switches and resistor network is arranged so that each switch has a different resistance value. When a switch is pressed, a voltage drop occurs in the resistor network which produces a specific voltage value unique to the switch selected. These specific voltage values allow the radio to identify which switch has been pressed. The radio responds just as if the corresponding radio front panel button had been pressed.When the radio is ON, the radio supplies approximately 10 volts to the switches on the 10-volt reference circuit. The specific voltage signal from the switch is returned to the radio on the steering wheel controls signal circuit.This may inhibit the use of the redundant control with an aftermarket head unit.
(Gm Service Information 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt)
Some of you may have been aware of this information, many of you may not have, hope it helps any who need it.
Last edited by COBALT SS LOVER; 04-30-2007 at 09:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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