sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

Alright so I am planning on installing a kenwood double din with nav and i know that i need the harness, antenna adapter, etc. I know a lot of guys on here used the gmos lan 04 harness to hook up their double dins. I am just wondering if this harness is really necessary if you dont have onstar? I have the pioneer system but i dont have onstar so i am wondering if I should go with the expensive harness?

brickloaf

you dont need the expensive harness but you will lose all chimes (door, seatbelt, etc)

warrenb213

I assume u've got an 07+ yea?

If you have an 07+ and want door chimes/clicker of turn signal/seat belt chime: Pac C2R-GM11
If you have an 07+ and don't care for all the above mentioned: Metra 70-2202

I personally love not having door chimes and all. a couple times girls sitting shotgun accused me of not using my signal to change lanes because they didn't hear a click. LOL.

For reference, I've included the wiring guide found on a sticky to back this up. Since you are Pioneer look at the US8 connections. The other radio listed is the other mainstream mp3 deck used in 07+'s.

Radio C1
Connector Part Information
• OEM: 12110206

• Service: See Catalog

• 24-Way F Micro-Pack 100 Series (L-BU)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

A1
GY
118
Left Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)

A1
D-GN
1947
Left Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)

A2
TN
201
Left Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)

A2
TN
511
Left Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)

A3
L-BU
115
Right Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)

A3
TN
1946
Right Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)

A4
D-BU
46
Right Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)

A4
D-BU
546
Right Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)

A5
BN
199
Left Rear Speaker (+) (U1C)

A5
BN/WH
599
Left Rear Low Level Audio Signal (US8)

A6
YE
116
Left Rear Speaker Signal (-) (U1C)

A6
BN
1999
Left Rear Low Level Audio (-) (US8)

A7
L-GN
200
Right Front Speaker (+) (1) (U1C)

A7
L-GN/WH
512
Right Front Low Level Audio Signal (US8)

A8
D-GN
117
Right Front Speaker Signal (-) (1) (U1C)

A8
L-GN
1948
Right Front Low Level Audio (-) (US8)

A9
D-BU
1796
Steering Column Radio Control Signal (UK3)

A10
WH/BK
644
10-Volt Reference (US8)

A11
--
--
Not Used

A12
BK/WH
1051
Signal Ground

B1
RD/WH
1140
Battery Positive Voltage

B2
--
--
Not Used

B3
L-GN
1011
Remote Radio Control Signal (US8)

B4-B5
--
--
Not Used

B6
PK
314
Radio On Signal

B7-B8
--
--
Not Used

B9
D-GN
5060
Low Speed GMLAN Serial Data

B10-B12
--
--
Not Used

sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

ok i can deal with that as long as it doesn't screw up anything else

yea its an 07, I appreciate your help warren

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

hey SJC.... just buy the expensive metra harness man. ur gonna need VSS for nav to work "right" and finding that wire is a bitch. and i work doing this **** all day. ur not going to find it and get it to work.

take my word for it

sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

ok so if i buy the expensive harness is it going to save me a lot of hassle with the VSS?

ctcsoccer7

yes, dude it will save you time and make your life so easy!

Cefaln452

iTrader: (5)

depends if the unit you have needs a speed sence

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

that is correct but if its a kenwood it probably does need it. I would double check thou anyway

As an FYI im actually sad theres no VSS harness option for us 05-06 guys. i might get navigation if that was the case

sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

alright i appreciate everyones input. Does anyone know where i can go pick one of these up? I won't be home for a week or possibly two so i would like to try to find it somewhere so that i can attempt to get this thing installed

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

best buy or local shop should have one

ctcsoccer7

the best buy ones wont have it, if your not going to be home order it, EBAY. be home when you get there! EBAY WILL BE THE CHEAPEST

sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

picked it up for 85 at best buy

Cefaln452

iTrader: (5)

emp you can tap the VSS... I cant remember but for some reason I thinks its in your obd2 plug

sjc0013

iTrader: (6)

ok why is my harness not matching up with my plugs from the stock radio?

ctcsoccer7

model number of the harness?

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

x2??? spun posted a pic of the one gmos lan 04 here recently