EmpJJ Second Skin Thread
#26
Nice work.
Id like to have the time and money to do my car that throughly. I don't even have a sub in my car yet and it rattles extremely bad when I barely turn the music up.
I have Dynamat on the deck and on the doors but I think the plastic interior pieces rattle the most.
Id like to have the time and money to do my car that throughly. I don't even have a sub in my car yet and it rattles extremely bad when I barely turn the music up.
I have Dynamat on the deck and on the doors but I think the plastic interior pieces rattle the most.
#27
thanks man ya it was alot of work
LOL true dat
lol the rear wheel well/quarter panel area
LOL true dat
lol the rear wheel well/quarter panel area
#28
Starting on the dash. doesn't look like I'm gonna be able to use any LLP. guess ill have to figure out another use for what i got. But hopefully some damp and damp pro will make a difference
#30
its power wire. the purple looking stuff came from a roll i bought a long time ago and the red and grayish black came from a current 8g amp kit. i was going to change the pos on both sides to red but didnt wanna spend the money for the color only
#36
Umm, I don't think you fully understand the usage of damping mat. All it's doing is reducing resonance in a certain panel. Some panels, like the roof, are going to resonate more than others. Those are the panels that need DP. On any panel, anything more than 25% coverage will not increase the sound vibration damping qualities. It's just wasted material. The LLP is the only stuff meant for full coverage. And on your doors, I sure hope you plan on covering the holes in the doors. Otherwise all the work you did is for naught. It's too late for you obviously, but others should check out Sound Deadener Showdown for a good rundown on what individual products do. That way other people can get similar results for WAY less money. It is a very common misconception that you have to put layers and layers of this stuff for it to work. Check out www.diymobileaudio.com. They have a great forum for all that info.
#38
Umm, I don't think you fully understand the usage of damping mat. All it's doing is reducing resonance in a certain panel. Some panels, like the roof, are going to resonate more than others. Those are the panels that need DP. On any panel, anything more than 25% coverage will not increase the sound vibration damping qualities. It's just wasted material. The LLP is the only stuff meant for full coverage. And on your doors, I sure hope you plan on covering the holes in the doors. Otherwise all the work you did is for naught. It's too late for you obviously, but others should check out Sound Deadener Showdown for a good rundown on what individual products do. That way other people can get similar results for WAY less money. It is a very common misconception that you have to put layers and layers of this stuff for it to work. Check out www.diymobileaudio.com. They have a great forum for all that info.
#39
menance ive been thinking of a good reply to that without posting a giant paragraph or sounding like an ass, cant really do both so ill half ass it and say. 25% coverage is a good starting point for a vehicle without any other issues. most of the time that's combined with the LLP barrier product which in reality acts like a vibration dampener in most cases. anyone with loud subwoofers will need more if they want it to be effective. and yes you can achieve the same results i have for much less even using the same materials. my downfall is my stereo system and the amount of times ive taken my car apart. if i had something much smaller system wise and pulled everything apart only once then i probably could have spent 1/2 if not less then what i actually did
#40
the rest of the dash pics... i forgot to take some of the piece on the very front of the dash but rest assured it got the second skin treatment
On the dash from the factory was a cotton piece to keep the dash from rattling on the ac vents. I put 2 layers of rattle pad in its spot to do the same. the rattle pad is much more dense and an overall better product so it should do well
On the dash from the factory was a cotton piece to keep the dash from rattling on the ac vents. I put 2 layers of rattle pad in its spot to do the same. the rattle pad is much more dense and an overall better product so it should do well
Last edited by EmperorJJ1; 03-22-2010 at 10:26 PM.
#41
the rest of the dash pics... i forgot to take some of the piece on the very front of the dash but rest assured it got the second skin treatment
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1806.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1807.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1808.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1809.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1810.jpg[/img
On the dash from the factory was a cotton piece to keep the dash from rattling on the ac vents. I put 2 layers of rattle pad in its spot to do the same. the rattle pad is much more dense and an overall better product so it should do well
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1811.jpg[/ig]
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1814.jpg[/im]
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1806.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1807.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1808.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1809.jpg[/img
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1810.jpg[/img
On the dash from the factory was a cotton piece to keep the dash from rattling on the ac vents. I put 2 layers of rattle pad in its spot to do the same. the rattle pad is much more dense and an overall better product so it should do well
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1811.jpg[/ig]
[img]https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/0/0/1/5/105_1814.jpg[/im]
maybe im missing something but why put DP on the plastic panels? i understand rattle pad but DP seems pointless
#42
to make them heavier and less prone to rattle. The whole reason i took the dash apart in the first place was to put LLP in there somewhere so i get less engine noise but there was no where to put it. plus there was a rattle in my dash somewhere that i could fix by holding the dash. The center channel pretty much does that but at this point my mindset isn't really whats going to do anything its more it cant hurt and i want it to be a one shot and done deal
If anything the most redundant part is going to make the biggest difference. I put the damp on the ducting for the air vents as well. so maybe ill get some insulation there and help the ac/heater
If anything the most redundant part is going to make the biggest difference. I put the damp on the ducting for the air vents as well. so maybe ill get some insulation there and help the ac/heater
#45
RCA's running up the a pillar. barely fit with 6 pairs of the audison connection "best" line (sonus is way above my budget)
I added as many scraps of MM and MMP i had left sealed them with the alum tape and added damp pro here and there. The old alum tape was probably 50/50 at best but once the headliner is back in if it falls it wont drop far
i added a lil piece of overkill over the dome light. probably wont do anything but hey why not
I added as many scraps of MM and MMP i had left sealed them with the alum tape and added damp pro here and there. The old alum tape was probably 50/50 at best but once the headliner is back in if it falls it wont drop far
i added a lil piece of overkill over the dome light. probably wont do anything but hey why not
#46
so after i fixed my glove box trim rattle i realized my pass seat was rattling just the slightest. so i took preventive measures
(to be honest thou what was rattling was the airbag sensor and its nonsense so after removing i figured why not throw a lil damp pro in the mix)
(to be honest thou what was rattling was the airbag sensor and its nonsense so after removing i figured why not throw a lil damp pro in the mix)