J. Rayth's 3k system install
03-07-2008, 10:15 PM
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What sheet? The spec sheet? I can post the spec's of the amps from the website, but if you want the spec sheet from the box I wont be able to get that until tomorrow as they are at the garage.
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03-07-2008, 10:22 PM
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Remember when doing your doors not to seal up the holes at the bottom.
No matter what you do water is going to get in there, if you seal the holes you will give it no place to escape
That is of course unless you plan on sealing up your windows, rendering them usless, which would kinda suck in the summer, or if you smoke, plus its hard to holla at the ladies
BTW-Very Nice
No matter what you do water is going to get in there, if you seal the holes you will give it no place to escape
That is of course unless you plan on sealing up your windows, rendering them usless, which would kinda suck in the summer, or if you smoke, plus its hard to holla at the ladies
BTW-Very Nice
03-07-2008, 10:24 PM
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Remember when doing your doors not to seal up the holes at the bottom.
No matter what you do water is going to get in there, if you seal the holes you will give it no place to escape
That is of course unless you plan on sealing up your windows, rendering them usless, which would kinda suck in the summer, or if you smoke, plus its hard to holla at the ladies
BTW-Very Nice
No matter what you do water is going to get in there, if you seal the holes you will give it no place to escape
That is of course unless you plan on sealing up your windows, rendering them usless, which would kinda suck in the summer, or if you smoke, plus its hard to holla at the ladies
BTW-Very Nice
03-07-2008, 10:43 PM
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looks great so far. make sure to dampen the rear deck as well, im sure youve though of this, but havent seen it mentioned. that thing can rattle really bad and if you break one of the flimsy metal clips holding it in, rattle city
great work
great work
03-07-2008, 11:03 PM
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I would give it a bit of extra time drying depending on how thick you apply the spectrum and the temperature it is outside or in the garage whatever..... Also throw a lil fan (or space heater fan thing like i use) and it will speed the drying process quite a bit (heat doesnt do quite as much as the air flow but it does help especially in the cold.
03-08-2008, 03:12 AM
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I would give it a bit of extra time drying depending on how thick you apply the spectrum and the temperature it is outside or in the garage whatever..... Also throw a lil fan (or space heater fan thing like i use) and it will speed the drying process quite a bit (heat doesnt do quite as much as the air flow but it does help especially in the cold.
I'll bring that up with him and see what he thinks. There may be clearance issues with MDF, but I will definitely bring it up.
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03-08-2008, 02:33 PM
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Well, had I known I would have needed 160 sqft I would have bought them in higher bulk amounts and saved money, since I didn't, and because I had the second shipment sent second day air so I could have it for this weekend, the total including shipping came to 793.90.
03-09-2008, 12:38 AM
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Spectrum coating
I just wrapped up another day of sound deadening the car, today was Spectrum day. I must say, I am VERY impressed with this product. I thought it was going to be runny and messy, but it is pretty thick and very easy to apply. It should be noted that the recommended application for spectrum would actually be the underside of the car, using a spray gun, but since I don't have a lift I applied it the second best way; on top of the damplifier.
I ordered 1 gallon of Spectrum, it came in four 1 quart bottles.
Here is a shot to illustrate how thick the spectrum is. It is as thick as pudding.
Before painting, secure seat belts...
...and clean the area to be painted. Since the area we are painting with the Spectrum is already covered with Damplifier, it was mostly cleaned already; but I took tack cloth to grab any areas that still needed to be cleaned up.
We started with the wheel wells and rear seats. Since we are painting this onto aluminum, the first coat goes on pretty thin. However, after about 10 minutes the first coat becomes tacky, and you can then apply another coat and it will adhere well. With the first "coat" (1.5 coats, we'll call it) completed, you can still see the aluminum through the Spectrum.
The second coat goes on very easily and completely blots out the aluminum. At this point there is about 1mm of Spectrum coating.
Second coat on wheel well (it is blue because it is still wet, it dries and becomes gray)
Second coat on rear seats (also still wet)
When we coated the floor, we decided to coat all the way up the firewall foam to give it a little boost of dampening. It went on the rubber just as easily as it went on the aluminum.
Here is the passenger side floor with the first coat completed
And here is the passenger side floor with the second coat completed
Drivers side floor with second coat completed
And for comparison, here is a shot of the rear seats with the second coat cured (dried for 45 minutes). It dries a very dark gray, almost black.
Since Second Skin recommends a 3mm coat for best results, we applied our last coat very thick. It takes a full 36 hours to dry, so we let our last coat be the thickest one. This coat brings the coverage to 3mm.
Passenger side with final coat:
Drivers side with final coat:
We have a fan in the trunk that will be blowing air through the car as it dries for the next 36+ hours. We are actually going to give it around 40 hours before we start with applying the Overkill foam.
We only used 1 5/6 pints of Spectrum, so we have a little more then 2 pints left for the doors and the trunk. We are also planning on spraying the trunk instead of painting it to get a thicker and more uniform coat. The doors will be a 1mm coat, used primarily to seal in the Damplifier, and we will be sure not to plug the holes on the bottom of the door.
So, tomorrow we are just relaxing, Monday we put the foam on the floors and rear seats so we can put the carpet back in. Tuesday we seal the wheel wells and put the Damplifier in the trunk and doors. Since we are double coating the trunk and doors it will probably take all day. Wednesday we'll spray the Spectrum in the trunk and paint it in the doors, as well as over the inner wheel wells (since they will be recently covered with fresh Damplifier). Friday we will apply the Overkill Pro foam to the inner wheel wells, doors, and trunk; and if all goes according to plan, we will have the body back together Saturday.
I just wrapped up another day of sound deadening the car, today was Spectrum day. I must say, I am VERY impressed with this product. I thought it was going to be runny and messy, but it is pretty thick and very easy to apply. It should be noted that the recommended application for spectrum would actually be the underside of the car, using a spray gun, but since I don't have a lift I applied it the second best way; on top of the damplifier.
I ordered 1 gallon of Spectrum, it came in four 1 quart bottles.
Here is a shot to illustrate how thick the spectrum is. It is as thick as pudding.
Before painting, secure seat belts...
...and clean the area to be painted. Since the area we are painting with the Spectrum is already covered with Damplifier, it was mostly cleaned already; but I took tack cloth to grab any areas that still needed to be cleaned up.
We started with the wheel wells and rear seats. Since we are painting this onto aluminum, the first coat goes on pretty thin. However, after about 10 minutes the first coat becomes tacky, and you can then apply another coat and it will adhere well. With the first "coat" (1.5 coats, we'll call it) completed, you can still see the aluminum through the Spectrum.
The second coat goes on very easily and completely blots out the aluminum. At this point there is about 1mm of Spectrum coating.
Second coat on wheel well (it is blue because it is still wet, it dries and becomes gray)
Second coat on rear seats (also still wet)
When we coated the floor, we decided to coat all the way up the firewall foam to give it a little boost of dampening. It went on the rubber just as easily as it went on the aluminum.
Here is the passenger side floor with the first coat completed
And here is the passenger side floor with the second coat completed
Drivers side floor with second coat completed
And for comparison, here is a shot of the rear seats with the second coat cured (dried for 45 minutes). It dries a very dark gray, almost black.
Since Second Skin recommends a 3mm coat for best results, we applied our last coat very thick. It takes a full 36 hours to dry, so we let our last coat be the thickest one. This coat brings the coverage to 3mm.
Passenger side with final coat:
Drivers side with final coat:
We have a fan in the trunk that will be blowing air through the car as it dries for the next 36+ hours. We are actually going to give it around 40 hours before we start with applying the Overkill foam.
We only used 1 5/6 pints of Spectrum, so we have a little more then 2 pints left for the doors and the trunk. We are also planning on spraying the trunk instead of painting it to get a thicker and more uniform coat. The doors will be a 1mm coat, used primarily to seal in the Damplifier, and we will be sure not to plug the holes on the bottom of the door.
So, tomorrow we are just relaxing, Monday we put the foam on the floors and rear seats so we can put the carpet back in. Tuesday we seal the wheel wells and put the Damplifier in the trunk and doors. Since we are double coating the trunk and doors it will probably take all day. Wednesday we'll spray the Spectrum in the trunk and paint it in the doors, as well as over the inner wheel wells (since they will be recently covered with fresh Damplifier). Friday we will apply the Overkill Pro foam to the inner wheel wells, doors, and trunk; and if all goes according to plan, we will have the body back together Saturday.
03-09-2008, 12:54 AM
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And gee, thanks for commenting on my 8 hours of Spectrum painting. A-hole.
03-09-2008, 04:49 AM
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