mightymouse1975

i haven't been interested in stereo stuff since i was a teenager,been all about performace. well now i'm approaching 38 fast(next month) and wanted to treat myself to a bday gift. i want to purchase the pioneer avh-p8400bh. however was wondering how well are the stock speakers. i'm guessing i would need an amp to get a clean sound from this unit. the type of sound i'm looking for is like a movie surround sound. not so much how low the bass can get,but just that crisp all around sound. thanks!!

oh and i love that head unit and don't want to choose anything else.

tru2nrtt777

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Honestly as long as you don't want it loud enough to make your ears bleed you can just run new speakers without running an amp. Stock speakers are trash and should be quickly discarded. Honestly when it comes to SQ or SPL it is more along the lines of how deep your pockets are. What kind of budget are you going for and do you have the factory tweeter option?

mightymouse1975

i do have the factory tweeter option. as far as speakers go, i'll spend $200-$300 to replace the 6 speakers inside the car. i thought the sub was okay for the back lol...like i said i want the pioneer head unit i mentioned and i remember if you buy high quality speakers,to get the most out of them.you might have to run a small amp for the highs,if the head unit doesn't have the power to do it. am i right??

tru2nrtt777

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I have always been a fan of CV and if I hadn't found my Fosgate T1's for a steal I was definitely considering these for my slowbalt:

Cerwin-Vega HED65C (HED 65C) 6-1/2" 2-way Component Car Speakers

Cerwin-Vega HED69 (HED 69) 6" x 9" 2-way Coaxial Car Speakers

Very good speakers for either amp'd or no amp configurations.

EmperorJJ1

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fyi if you replace the speakers you will need to do a stock amp bypass regardless of if you add a new amp or not

tru2nrtt777

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Is that because he has the Pioneer system? I have a base so I just cut, soldiered, heat shrinked, and plugged in.

EmperorJJ1

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yes the pioneer system utilizes 2 ohm speakers so if hes replacing the radio and addning new 4 ohm speakers leaving the stock amp inline will make it sound like ass

tru2nrtt777

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OK, I was gonna say I don't remember on my rears but when I replaced the fronts they said 4ohm... Or he could run 4 ohm coaxials down low and 4 ohm tweeters in parallel but he would have to still find a crossover for the tweeter. Then a 4 ohm 5" mid in the back with a seperate 4 ohm tweeter and fab up a adapter plate with a crossover... IDK just throwing suggestions.

EmperorJJ1

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right but a non pioneer system doesnt use the 2 ohm setup, just the pioneer. he could run 2 pairs of 4 ohm speakers like your suggesting (2 mids, 2 tweets and 2 crossovers or 2 coax per side) but then your 2 speakers would be pretty underpowered. it would work but not really optimal.

by replacing the HU with the pioneer if he utilizes the standard plug via speaker wire he would overdrive the stock amp (possibility of giving it to much voltage) this could be avoided with the module harness which utilizes RCA out vs the speaker out. running the stock amp with 4 ohm speakers when its meant for 2 ohm speakers gives you half the power output. so take that 15w or whatever and cut it in half.

a 3rd option would be to look for 2 ohm speakers do a direct swap and leave the stock amp in place. if you did that going with the module harness would be the best route